Don has been an avid traveler and motorhome owner for most of his life and he shares his experiences along with valuable tips for RV owners.
A ten year UPDATE!
This Scam is Happening More and More Often
I wrote this article a few years ago; but I must tell you that you should be very careful if you try to sell your motorhome in the open market on your own.
There are still a number of these crooks out there who are constantly trying to hook the unaware motorhome owner with this scam.
I get at least one reader a month on my blog, as well as here on HP, telling me about their own experiences with these so called buyers.
So please, read on!
I decided to Sell My Motorhome
I put my RV up for Sale. At the time, we owned what is referred to as a big rig. It was a very nice, 42-foot, 4-slide Monaco Camelot, loaded with luxury options.
I was not getting out of the RV lifestyle though. Rather, for personal reasons I was trying to move down in the size of my RV.
In early spring we had started out on what was to be a one- to five-year dream trip around the country.
But as we got onto the road and "lived the lifestyle," it became more and more obvious that our bodies were telling us that we just couldn't, physically, do all those things required to be a full-timer, at least not like we used to.
After almost two years of traveling in our great motorhome, we finally accepted the fact that we just could not travel full time, as we had dreamed.
And the next obvious realization for us was that we didn't need such a large and elaborate motorhome if we were going to drop back to shorter trips, in distance as well as in time on the road.
A "Buy Bigger and Newer" Industry
If you are an experienced RV owner, you know that the whole camper sales industry is designed to get you into a larger and more expensive rig, rather than helping you drop back in size as we wanted to do.
They call their sales philosophy Trading Up! None of the RV Dealers have a system for Trading Down!
I talked with dealers as we traveled across the country over the past year checking on this phenomenon from California to Florida, and each and every one of the dealers wanted to literally "steal" my motorhome from me.
If you say you want to trade down, or OMG outright sell your rig, it is shocking how far they want to discount their offer on your motorhome. It really chills their enthusiasm if you stand your ground and refuse to consider a trade-up or consider their ridiculously low offers."
My2006 Fleetwood Bounder
The RV "Selling Buzzards"
After a lot of research and conversations with old-timer RVers, I came up with a selling plan, and the first step was advertising.
Because the market for RVs is a lot smaller and more specialized than the automobile market, you need to present your rig or camper on the web or in magazines in the most favorable light possible in order to capture the interest of this limited range of potential buyers.
I listed my rig on a couple of the most popular RV sales sites. Then, I sat back and waited for offers.
I soon found that there happen to be two kinds of what I call; "selling buzzards" out there,
The Listing type of selling buzzard make their money by listing your Rv on their supposedly fantastic web sites ... for a small fee!
They will all guarantee you that;
- They are the best RV sellers in the country.
- They will sell your RV at the highest price of anyone else.
- They will sell your RV faster than anyone else.
- And they guarantee yu a quick sale if you list it properly.
These listing buzzards are out there with their nicely designed web stores, filled with other motorhomes people want to sell. Give them their $150 to $250 and after a few weeks you can go and scan their site scan and see your motorhome there, along with your pictures and your description of the RV.
Then the Dreamers show up. They call your number and make you ridiculous offers for your RV, offers by the way that 90% will not have the funds to follow through once you make an agreement
I call them Listing Buzzards because, just like the real and respectable buzzards of the world, they circle perceived roadkill for a while before they decide to land and feast on the carcass. "Just trust us," they often say.
And if, in a moment of weakness, you respond, they pounce on you and start their sales pitch.
It will go something like this:
- Your rig will be listed on over a gazillion sites, nationwide. The reality? They will list your rig on their remote site, and they will have ads for their site available for search engines to find with the right search words.
- Your rig will be listed in the top 15 or 20 RV magazines in the country. The reality? They will have ads for themselves in those magazines, with no direct listing of your rig.
- They guarantee your RV sells, in 60, 90, 180, etc. days, or your money is refunded. The reality? Yeah, sure, just try to get your money back from them.
- And if you sign up right now and use the code provided, they will give you $100 off of their regular price of $249, $349, $399, etc.
What a gang of crooks.
Waiting for a Real Offer Takes Time
Anyway, now that I have gotten that off of my chest, here is what I actually did.
I listed my motorhome on two of the more reputable and popular RV listing sites, with pictures and a detailed description of my rig.
And, every couple of weeks I also listed my rig on eBay.
These three sites gave my rig pretty good exposure, and even though the market for larger motorhomes is pretty weak, I was happy with my plan for a while, even though I had not come close to making a real sale.
Oh, I would get interested people, but there has never any closure for the longest time.
I Was Contacted By a "Buyer" With a Scam
When you put your contact information out there, to try to find that real buyer out there who is going to make you a reasonable offer he can afford, you need to sift through a lot of responses from dreamers, low-ball offers, bored talkers who don't really want to buy, and other strange personalities.
During this sifting process, I received an email from a person in Kentucky.
He said that he was an automobile procurer for other people. He said he thought he had a buyer for my rig, and wanted me to answer some more questions about my motorhome.
This is a normal part of the beginning of a sale, so we swapped emails for several days until we had gotten down to the particulars of an actual deal.
It was at this point that I got Warning Sign #1: He didn't try to knock my price at all. He accepted the number I gave him immediately.
At this point that he sent me some stipulations that he and his buyer had. They were:
- They wanted me to accept an earnest fee of $500.
- They would find an Inspector to check the rig out professionally.
- They would arrive at my site and inspect and test-drive my rig.
- They would pay me with a "bank check" and close the deal.
Well, this drove us into another half-dozen or more emails, as I tried to get these four steps clarified.
- I accepted the $500 earnest money but for only a two-week period. That was OK with them.
- An inspector was okay with me because a seller has to accept an inspection of his or her rig.
- It was okay for them to come test-drive my rig, because any buyer would do a test drive before closing on a sale of this size.
- This request for a "bank check" drove me back to my bank. A bank manager told me that if the buyer paid by cashier's check, he would contact the other bank to confirm that the cashier's check was valid, that the other bank had issued a check with this serial number, and that the check was backed by funds.
I told the buyers this and they accepted the bank's requirements for the closing of the deal. So I started to get more confident that I might actually have a buyer for my rig.
Then the prospective buyer sent me another, more detailed description of how they required their first check to be handled.
This was Warning Sign #2: they said the bank check they would send me for my earnest money would also include the payment to the vehicle Inspector that they selected, and I would have to cash this check and pay the inspector within three days of receiving the check.
THIS was the actual SCAM!
I told them that my banker had told me that any check could take up to a total of ten days to be processed by two different banks.
Also, I told them that the normal procedure was for the potential buyer to select their own inspector and pay him themselves, and not have the seller handle this for them.
They responded that this was not acceptable, as they had already made plans for travel, and that I had to process this check in their required three days.
I firmly replied that I had to follow the directions of my bank, and that they could either bring cash, or I would require the ten-day processing time my bank told me about.
And, guess what? All communications stopped.
How Would the Scam Have Worked?
They never intended to buy my motorhome. Rather, they wanted me to cash this first check for the earnest payment and the "inspector's payment" and then hand over the Inspector's fee to someone they designated.
To finish the scam, they would disappear before the three days were up, and then four to ten days later, I would get a call from my bank saying the check was rubber, and that I was responsible for paying the bank back for my earnest money as well as the inspector's fee.
No Sale, No Cry!
Sorry, I had a Bob Marley moment there.
So, here I sit.
I still own my motorhome. It is still listed on my favorite three sites for sale. I can store it for a while, and when I visit relatives and friends, I can pull up in style in my big rig that I don't need!
And, I have learned yet another way a man can take advantage of his fellow man and drive him to trust no one but himself.
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Questions & Answers
Question: More than ever, we need to be well-informed of the financial entrapments out there. I am also a senior with an RV travel trailer for sale. It is currently listed on C.L., but the only responses received have been fraudulent text messages. Would you please share the names of the "two more reputable listing sites" which you mentioned in the paragraph in this article entitled "My Selling Strategy"?
Answer: I have used RVTRADER several times and RVUSA once. Each site gets a lot of exposure with potential buyers and is professional looking. That's about all you can ask of the websites; it's still up to you to drive the sale with your pictures, description of your RV, and sales acumen when someone calls you.
Question: Will an RV dealership, like PPL buy your RV outright? Without trading up or down?
Answer: I am not familiar with PPL?
But, many RV Dealers will purchase your RV outright, but at a high cost to the owner.
Sad to say, they offer far below what is called "Wholesale" for an RV.
Most people who have experienced being in this position are shocked by their "low-ball" offering, but far too often, personal circumstances force them into accepting such an offer.
I recommend that, if you have the time, at least try to use a Consignment RV dealer.
Question: What do you know about SellRVNow?
Answer: Out of curiosity, I sent the information on my motorhome and there was never a response.
I was going to check the BBB to see if there were any "real" comments or complaints, but I haven't done that yet. Too often onsite reviews can be fake, so I recommend that anyone interested in any site that seems too good to be true, make some checks for real experiences.
If you find any real customer reviews, I would love to see them myself.
Good Luck on your search for a reputable company,
Question: We were looking into selling our RV on consignment through CampingWorld and have been trying to understand and verify the insurance related issues regarding coverage. Progressive initially told us that our vehicle would not be covered but after a long conversation they confirmed that we would be. When we asked for this in writing they said they could not provide. Any thoughts?
Answer: If you have insurance with any Insurance company, you have a right to a copy of your coverages, including any details.
If this information is not in your policy then request a new copy of your policy. They are obligated to provide you with what is covered.
Question: We are trying to sell our 28 ft camper. We got a call from GO RV SALES with the offer to list our camper nationwide and provide financing to buyers. Their fee is $99.00. What do you know about this company?
Answer: I checked on Scamadvisor and they have been online for about three years, and they have no listed comments, good or bad.
All I can say is that there are so many of these sites that will list your RV on the web and that's it. They make their money $100 or so at a time, and they do put your pictures and info on their site, but they do not handle sales for you, so what you are buying is a listing on a site that may or may not get much exposure.
I would recommend that you look at RV Trader or one of the other big sites. They do the same thing but they do get a lot of exposure and have an email notification system to let you know about offers or just questions from potential customers.
Question: Did you ask your bank or insurance agent the value of your RV before listing?
Answer: No, I relied on the NADA values I found on their site on the web.
Question: Have you heard of go rv sale? They claim that for $99 they will list it in several different sites.
Answer: I have not heard of this specific company, but one of the largest and most popular sites that you can list your RV on is RV Trader. And there are several others just as popular. Their fees are in the range you mentioned and they have a large audience.
But remember that with these companies they will list your RV on THEIR SITE and they will list their site on numerous web sites with what is called "classifieds".
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on June 18, 2020:
Sorry Lisa, but it is unlikely that you will find any traces of this "company/charity" on the web, but it is worth try.
Regardless, I would contact one of the major national charities and ask them what they have told others who have been scammed. Perhaps they have a way of finding the culprits.
Lisa Devroy on June 18, 2020:
I believe I fell for the scam. I feel stupid but at the time it sounded so promising. There are several names like attached to the company that I donated a large chunk of money to. Is there any recourse to this? Is there anyway to get back my money?
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on November 17, 2019:
Carol - In my experience, CW is a big corporation that has sites all across the country. Their parts departments are second to none. But, their pricing is high and their allowances for trade-ins are low. Also, their service labor rates would choke a horse. I use them for service begrudgingly because they are everywhere and thats something to consider when you are on long excursions.
Have a Nice Day,
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on November 07, 2019:
I think it great to hear positive responses on this often problematic part of RV ownership.
Calvin Porter on November 07, 2019:
Sorry for everyone's troubles. We just sold our Motor Home, albeit a much smaller unit than your 40+ footers. We made the decision to sell it and like many, wondered where to go...consignment with dealers, listing on sites...BUT, we went first to RV Select...no scam. We called and provided info on our rig. Jerrod made us a cash offer that we accepted. Keri handled all the instructions and documentation. Troy, the driver, picked up our rig at our storage facility on 11/1/19 and provided all documentation, which we were able to verify. He changed the license plates and drove away. The whole deal took 8 days! We were able to stop storage fees, insurance, taxes and all other associated costs. Plus, they picked it up! We did not have to put up with tire kickers, lookers, wannabes or pay commissions or consignment fees...done deal. Anyway, hope this info helps someone. We definitely make the right decision here.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on August 13, 2019:
Revenge is Sweet??
Have a Good Day,
tim kimball on August 12, 2019:
I have had similar instances while posting on offerup. When the guy asked for my mailing address I gave the police departments address to send the check there and alerted them a check would be coming in my name. Unfortunately they said it never came. Too bad you didn't waste his time by telling him it was cashed and have the guy show up anyways while the cops were either waiting or had the guy show up at a fake address.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on July 24, 2019:
Shianti - Sad to say, once your credit takes a hit like yours has done, you are not going to get any kind of cooperation with RV or any other kind of property sellers.
This is the real world we live in and you will need to find a good credit management company that will work with you to pull your score up.
Sorry, but there is no quick resolution for your credit problem, that I have heard of.
Have a nice day.
Shianti Andino on July 23, 2019:
Hello All, It seems as if there are problems all around. I'm looking to buy, but I need to rent to own or lease option. I had my identity stolen along with bank fraud, so my credit took a hard hit. I am not a scammer, but I'm being treated like one because I would ask an FSBO if they would do a creative deal with me. The one website (No credit campers) just put a hit on my credit and still denied me with a 610 credit score. I am so discouraged at this point, but I'll keep trying for now. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on January 21, 2019:
John - Sad to say there are far too many of these people online who are ready to take advantage of honest and trusting people.
Just beware and they will fade away when they see that you are not going to be duped.
Have a Great Day,
John on January 21, 2019:
Don, that was a great story! I have a 40ft 5th wheel for sale and am facing the same challenges, also receiving the same "sell with us" phone calls and messages. Ah well, such is life. My wife and I wish you and yours the best in all of your future adventures!
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on January 01, 2019:
Marlene Bertrand - Thanks for reading my article.
And, yes in the article I did mention several sites that charge you for listing your RV. One that I liked for its layout and popularity is RV TRADER. There are others that you can find, often in the classifieds of the popular RV magazines.
Marlene Bertrand from USA on December 31, 2018:
Great article. My husband and I posted our RV for sale on community boards. You mentioned "the most popular RV sales sites." You named eBay. What are the other sites? Thanks.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on November 24, 2018:
Mario - What you say is so true, but as long as there are gullible people out there, there are unsavory people who will take advantage of them.
Thanks for the comment, DON
Mario on November 23, 2018:
This scam has been going on for years on Craigslist, I personally have had this scam tried on me 3 or 4 times, and i know others who have had this tried on them too. It would be so simple to catch these scammers, but law enforcement doesn’t seem to care. The simple rule of thumb is, if it sounds too good to be true, it almost always is.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on November 22, 2018:
Sorry my friend, but for decades people and dealers traded using NADA LOW RETAIL and HIGH RETAIL as benchmarks for trades. But over the past decade the dealers now, the dealers want to allow pricing below even wholesale for trades and actually tell the gullible buyers that LIST is what they should pay. Then they throw in something like " but because we like you we will take $5k off of list. Aren't we thoughtful?"
Dealers continue to take advantage, until the end of years pricing for new models force them to drop the price on the units still on their lots.
The margins that dealers get these days are exorbitant, and that's undeniable.
Randy Broughton on November 21, 2018:
There are many companies that will consign rvs. You should understand that just like the auto industry, the depreciation is a large part here. Everyone wants retail for their trade and want to pay wholesale. A company cannot stay in business that way. Good luck in selling your rig. I have been selling these things about 8 years and most of my customers love me. Just remember profit is not a bad thing if you are getting what you think is a good deal.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on August 22, 2018:
Vivian - Sure, people do it every day.
I suggest that you first go to an office supply store like Stapes and get a Bill-of-sale form and any other forms you might see that you could use.
And, write up a simple guarantee form of your own that states what you expect from the seller over the next 30-days or so. Considering what a motorhome costs, a simple 50-50 warranty for 30-days or so should be expected.
Also, get the sellers signature on every thing in front of a Notary Public.
Then the seller should sign the title and go with you to the DMV while they transfer it to you, just to make sure there are no problems with the ownership.
That's pretty much all you need to do.
Have a great day,
Vivian on August 21, 2018:
I am looking to buy a motor home thru owner only I don’t want to deal with dealerships at all. Any suggestions?
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on May 20, 2018:
Wendyg311 - This has all of the signs of a SCAM! Just as you described it, I would shut down this "Deal" and threaten these guys with calling the Cops. Then see what they say.
There are so many Con-Artists traveling around looking for people to take advantage of that you need to always be cautious.
Again, I'd just call the Cops and give them these guys names. And just move on to looking for an honest buyer.
There are a number of professional web sites that will charge you from $50 to $150 to list your RV nationally. They will take your pictures and description and make them look very nice, such as RV Trader for one.
And, I would NEVER dal with a stranger without their knowing that you will sit down with them at your local bank, and have them manage the deal, especially the transfers pf money.
Wendyg311 on May 19, 2018:
Hi. I’m wondering if anyone has heard of any scams along these lines.....
My mother, in FL, is trying to sell her motor home, she is 75 and really on the ball. My father died so she can’t use it now. I am so greatful she has two friends (men) where she stores it, who took pictures of the rv, and put their phone numbers so a man would be answering the phone, on Craigslist. She has had a lot of calls because it’s a 2006, but looks brand new because my father was a neat freak. Two guys came to look at it today. It has been raining for a few days. My mother and husband were in the camper yesterday and everything was fine. She was there with my husband and the two guys seemed very nice, but they just barged in. One went into the bathroom, the other straight to the bedroom, pulling up the bedding and the mattress. The guy in the bathroom said there was a leak. Of course my mom and husband were stunned and looking in there, when the guy in the bedroom said there was a leak in the bedroom. When my husband checked, there was a puddle of water on the carpet next to the bed, and part of the bed was wet. There was water down the wall in the bathroom. The guys said it was no problem, they could fix it and offered my mother half of what she was asking because of the leaks. My mother suggested my husband go on the roof to look at it. The guys said, no don’t do that it’s too dangerous because the leaks mean the roof is soft. My mother was so upset because of the leaks thinking she would never sell it now, she took their offer. They gave her a $200.00 deposit. She didn’t know that the title she took with her was only a copy. So she had to go home and look for it. The guy told her he would be there to pick up the rv at 10am on Monday. She wasn’t home 10 min and the guy was calling her to see if she had the original. He called her twice.
My husband started getting a feeling something was up. He went back to the camper, and the wet spot next to the bed which had been a puddle, was just damp now. The wet spot on the bed was just slightly damp now, and the water in the bathroom was almost dry. But it hadn’t stopped raining. He checked the ceilings and they are dry. My husband thinks they rushed in, went in two directions, and dumped water from a water bottle or ziplock. She’s going to tell them she is not selling it because she wants to get it fixed before she sells it to try to get more for it.
Has anyone ever heard of something like this? The rush and distract tactics. She’s old, the rv is immaculate. They know it’s worth double what they offered.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on May 12, 2018:
Norlyn - I understand your frustrations with selecting the right RV and working out a deal on a used RV.
Good Luck in your search, and BTW, I finally did sell mine.
ave a great day,
Norlyn Nelson on May 12, 2018:
I actually was going to buy a motorhome at a motorhome place in or RV place in Monticello Minnesota I got their tour closing time and I looked at it several used large motorhomes was pretty much only about 60,000 miles on each one of them and right around 10 grand and that's kind of what I wanted. So I had made a decision to buy it except for they had one more and they didn't know where it was parked and so I I waited on buying the one case I like the last one better we went ahead and seen better but they sold it out from under me it was it yeah I forgot the name of it but if I seen it I know it cuz there is a reason that many. But it was still one that I like the most and looking forward to getting it and was in was kind of excited about it but that was the best deal.. you know there's lots of them out there or not you know I'm just looking for the best deal for what I want and I having a hard time selling them a lot of them for what they're asking and they're not worth what to ask cuz there's too much damage you know there's just too old. But that's what I was interested in something in the 90s at least like yours with a generator because most of them have a generator. And I was looking to pay about 10 grand. I've come across a couple of sea model ones that are a little older that are really low miles and in really good shape for as low as 3 Grand. I like I like to class A one that would go a thousand miles if I decided to without breaking down. I'm a very honest man I don't know anybody more honest in this day in age I don't lie I don't cheat I don't steal and I'm a good friend of my friends put my life on the line but I'm not looking to buy the most expensive one. I love you I want you to know about the ones they're selling Chief or they want to sell the newer ones. I don't know what you're asking for yours but good-looking luck in selling it for the price you want.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on June 20, 2017:
Anna - For safety's sake, I would recommend that you check in your area for a reputable RV Dealer who will sell your RV on consignment. They will put your RV on their lot and try to sell it for you within the price limits you both agree to. And if they sell it, they will handle the sale paperwork, and take 10% off of the top.
But the good thing about them is that your RV is getting seen by potential customers and is being stored for you.
Anna on June 19, 2017:
Can you give me some suggestions? I am a single woman trying to sell my roadtrek now on rvtrader for 6 months dropped price several times and ever single lead is bogus. I lost my 17 year old child and we used it to go on trips. How can I find a legitimate buyer without all the bs. the last one was gonna fly in from Canada not happened and another lowballed me 8 grand thanks
J Owens on May 15, 2017:
Don, the time you took to air this issue is appreciated! I also have run into this situation and have taken it to near completion before opening my eyes. Sometimes the desire to sell our rig outweighs our good judgement.
tammy hughes on March 05, 2017:
They did it to me on a tiny home I wanted to purchase
tammy hughes on March 05, 2017:
I've had this done to me from iPads purses and everything else even a Rolex. I figured them out though they are so stupid they use the same name each time
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on December 12, 2016:
Ray G - Start with RV Trader and RVT. They are my favorite two. Another one is RV Search, and there are some others but they handle less volumes.
Ray G on December 12, 2016:
Ok you kept talking about 3 sites you use to sell your RV. I have a 2017 35 ft travel trailer . Would you be able to tell me those sites ?
DesertRyder on May 13, 2015:
Lol... I guess I'm the perfect victim. I must look like the perfect victim; scammers gravitate to me. Last year I got scammed by a building contractor who was a FRIEND OF my late son!!! Yesterday I sold our 1999 minni winni to a guy named "Terry" who kept coming around, for years it seems, and asking if we wanted to sell it. I initially said "No" we might use it for a trip this fall. We last used it in Sept 2014 for a trip to TN & OH (from SoCal). He said he had the "money in his pocket." Actually, he left twice to "get money" and was gone a long time both times.
Terry gave me a sob story about how his home was repo'ed and he and his wife and kid were going to "live in it" until they can get back on their feet. It's only a 22 footer, perfect for two, but not as a permanent home. Well, we decided to sell it and agreed on $4,000. After removing all of our stuff from the rig, during my final walk through I found that someone had stuffed our portable DVD player into a nook where that someone didn't think I would find it. They weren't in the rig when I found it and I simply tucked it away inside my house and didn't say anything. Imagine their surprise when they find it "missing." Maybe the kid did it. After discussing all the problems with the rig (again it needs batteries, roof resealing, probably new engine belts, chassis AC repairs, coach air conditioner repairs, smog & registration, etc.) we agreed on $4,000. As he was counting out the money he stopped at $3.500 and mumbled something about $161 for registration, $200 for a battery, $50 for smog, and all the other "stuff," and no money for food, I simply said "$4,000 is what we agree on...as is." He paid cash with new $100 bills, so unless they are fake, I'm safe there. I did see "Ben" through the hidden part of the bill, but I'll take them to the credit union this PM. However, he gave me a fake name and address for the DMV part. When I questioned it he said that's because she has the insurance. So, that throws the "sob story" out the window (he actually shed a tear or two when he was telling the story). I wonder, am I going to be liable if he is in an accident, or the rig is used to smuggle illegals? Probably... He initially left me a card with his name and phone number on it, but it disappeared from the dining room table after we signed the paperwork. In retrospect, I think Terry is working for a small-time dealer...buy 'em cheap and resells them for a nice little profit. He claimed to not know much about motorhomes, never even drove one, but things he said and did proved otherwise. And Terry isn't the only one with a kid in tow, asking if the motorhome is for sale. It's funny how an eight or nine-year-old can be trained to say the right thing at the right time. The kid said "Is this going to be our home?" and dad responded "We weren't supposed to talk about that." Yeah, right. Although we got the money we wanted, the idea that someone would tell such outrageous lies to "get the deal" is just ridiculous.
Sondra Rochelle from USA on May 05, 2015:
Are you kidding? Geesh...sometimes I just hate this world we live in! BTW, if they don't respond to a DMCA, contact Google. They have the authority to cut their adsense funding if you can prove you wrote the article first! Good luck!
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on May 05, 2015:
Timetraveler2- Good points. We are a trusting generation, it seems, and this is what get so many of us in trouble when we are trying to sell or buy something.
It just seems that there are a number of "specialist" crooks who prey on our world of RVers.
BTW! You will love this. This very hub has been "stolen" by two different people, and even with a warning, I can't get them to retract their copies. LOL!
Have a great day,
Sondra Rochelle from USA on May 04, 2015:
There's more, unfortunately. Even if the buyer is "legit", if you do not turn in the proper paperwork to the DMV and the buyer does not register the coach in his name and has an accident...guess who is liable!! If you read my post on selling your RV, you can learn more, but the bottom line is that you have to cover all of the bases BEFORE you let a buyer drive away in your unit. Good luck!
Leslie on March 07, 2014:
I guess you should never accept to meet at the bank on Saturdays, in the afternoons etc because there would be no way to verify the check at those times. It should be before noon during the week.
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on April 25, 2013:
Ann Beadel- It sounds like these scammers are becoming more and more brazen. It seems that these people can operate with impunity until someone can set a trap for them. And, you have to wonder how many of us, around the US are being duped without there being any kind of system to warn the rest of us as to what to watch out for.
That is the reason I wrote this article, to get something out there for my fellow RVers.
Thanks for the comment,
Ann Beadel on April 24, 2013:
We are in the midst of dealing with your "buyer", or at least, his twin brother. One tidbit of information: he sent us a check marked "certified", drawn on some bank in Fredricksburg, Tx. (He purported to be a car dealer in Kansas, by the way.) We deposited the check two days ago, and this morning our bank called and said it was bogus. And btw, our bank said that banks had ceased issuing "certified" checks some ten years ago! He, too, wanted us to wire the inspector's fee via Western Union (another red flag---that can't be traced). Stay tuned for the next exciting episode...
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on March 24, 2013:
Thanks for the comment, Ray. And, I am sorry that you were duped by one of these crooks in the past.
Good luck to you and Yours.
Ray on March 23, 2013:
It's the too good to be true syndrome. I have a potential "BUYER" working me exactly the way you described. The only way I would take his money would be CASH and I would take him to my bank and make sure that it wasn't counterfeit. We've been there with our business years ago--the COD Cashier's Check route--lost $20K. Lesson learned. Good Post!!!
Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on November 26, 2011:
Good to hear from you Resspenser. You are right, about how the world of selling has changed. One thing that I did not know, that I got from my banker was the new (relatively?) status of Cashiers checks. 1- Stop payments cannot be made on a Cashiers check. If you get one issued, it cannot be canceled for 90-days. 2- You should always take your Cashier check to your bank, with the buyer, and have your bank check it for validity; a-it is a real bank serial number b-the funds the bank has on record are the same as what are on the check in front of you, I got these little facts from BOA. Thanks again, for the nice comment..
Ronnie Sowell from South Carolina on November 25, 2011:
I bought a bike from a banker in Ky via ebay several years ago. He told me to bring cash as even he couldn't tell if a cashiers check was funny. I have bought and sold several vehicles on ebay or craigslist. Cash is the way to go.
Good informative hub that may well save someone a heartache or two!