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Water Leaking Into a Car

Updated on January 18, 2017

If you have water leaking into your car, you need to deal with it promptly because of the many serious problems it can cause. If water sits for too long in a car's carpet, mold can grow and cause bad smells. Other problems can include corrosion of pin connectors, computer failures, sensor failures, rust, and high humidity inside the car causing your windows to fog up.

Where Is the Water Coming From?

A wet carpet is not the only sign of water leaking in a car. If you have an idea of where the water is getting into the car, check for water marks, stains, or even signs of rust. Take a close look at connectors for corrosion and check brackets for rust spots; you will be amazed what you will find when you look for it. I have always said, "Mechanics' best tools are not found in their toolbox, they are found in their heads." Water leaks are hard to pinpoint, but once you find exactly where the water is coming in, you can access the problem spot and repair it.

Leaks from Outside the Car

Improperly installed urethane that caused a windshield to leak water into the vehicle.
Improperly installed urethane that caused a windshield to leak water into the vehicle.

Leaking Windshield

The number one cause of a water leak in a car is the poor installation of a windshield. If you have had a windshield replaced recently, take a look at this possibility. I'm not trying to disrespect windshield replacement companies, it's just that some companies hire people who just don't care; they will cut out the old windshield and slap in the new one without proper preparation.

If a professional replaces the windshield, it will take a minimum of an hour. It takes time to remove the moldings, cut the windshield out, trim the old urethane so the new windshield sits flat, touch up any scratches in the paint from the removal process, prime the glass with a primer, and install a nice bead of new urethane.

If your "professional" replaced the glass in just 15 minutes, his or her work might be not just the cause of a water leak but a safety issue. In the event of a car crash, you could be thrown through an improperly installed windshield and severely injured. I am good friends with a guy who owns his own windshield repair company, and I see and hear the horror stories, so I write to you from experience.

Leaking Body Seams

Body seams are the second major cause of water leaking in your car. Seams that weren't properly sealed at the factory, or seams that were broken open by a car accident, will usually cause the mystery water leak. Finding the point of entry is worth the struggle.

Water-Testing Your Car for Leaks From the Outside

Finding the point of entry is the first step in keeping rainwater out of your car. This investigation is time-consuming, but something you can do yourself. You need to physically see where the water is coming into the car, not just where it is traveling along a panel or a seam. To test your car, pour water on it: start at a low point and work your way up to the roof. If you determine that water is leaking into the bottom of the windshield, there is no need to go any higher with the water test until after you've fixed this first low leak.

Leaks Into the Trunk

A foul, moldy smell in the trunk may result from water getting in around the taillights or the trunk lid. If you can identify these leaks you can get them fixed.

Leaking Sunroof: Finding Clogged or Disconnected Sunroof Drains

Location of sunroof drains in tray
Location of sunroof drains in tray
Sunroof drain in the corner of the sunroof tray
Sunroof drain in the corner of the sunroof tray
Disconnected sunroof drain
Disconnected sunroof drain
Clogged sunroof drain
Clogged sunroof drain

Leaking Aftermarket Accessories

Poorly installed aftermarket accessories are another major cause of water leaking in your car. Anything from a sunroof to a roof rack system, if not installed properly with the right sealer, will cause a water leak in a car.

If you have a factory-installed sunroof, check the drains. Sunroofs leak! That's why a factory-installed sunroof has a built-in tray with four drains, one in each corner of the sunroof. Sometimes these drain tubes become disconnected or clogged and will cause water to leak into the car. Locating the drains and checking them for proper drainage can take some time because they are usually buried in fenders and body panels, but it's time well spent. A shortcut to locating the drains is to fill the sunroof tray with water and watch where it goes when it drains. It will usually spill out in the front and the rear of the rocker panels.

Leaks From the Inside of the Car

Some leaks into the passenger compartment happen when it hasn't even been raining; they involve fluids created by the car's cooling or heating systems.

Evaporator drain location (on most vehicles)
Evaporator drain location (on most vehicles)

Clogged Air Conditioner Drain

When air conditioners take humidity out of the air in the passenger compartment, they end up collecting a lot of water that has to drain out of the car. Water dripping out of the air conditioner drain onto the ground is totally normal; water dripping onto the floor of the car from the air conditioner is not. If you haven't had any rain, and you have water leaking onto the passenger's floor, check your air conditioner drain or evaporator drain; it may be clogged or disconnected. Debris gets sucked into the evaporator from outside and occasionally will clog the drain tube. A temporary quick fix for this problem is blowing compressed air into the drain tube located under the car, but eventually you will have to remove the evaporator and clean out the debris.

Leaking Heater Core

Another possible cause of wet carpet, especially in the front of the car, when it hasn't been raining, is a leak from the heater core. Car heaters circulate coolant through the dashboard area to heat the car, and if the heater core springs a leak, coolant can drip onto the floor.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 days ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Crystal,

      Do you know if the windshield has ever been replaced? More likely the windshield seal than a body seam unless the vehicle has been in an accident? Also, the sunroof drains run down the windshield pillar and exit the vehicle by the front door hinges at the rocker panel. Let me know what your mechanic finds, thanks.

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      Crystal 6 days ago

      2007 Altima Nissan Used

      Whenever it rains water gets in- I have had countless ppl look at my car to see where it's coming from and no clue. I recently checked the sun roof on your points- to check for. Nothing but I'll have my mechanic look throughly.

      Most likely factory seams- I have seen water trickling from the Drivers side, and I have water coming from the drivers side and in the back.

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      Eddie Carrara 6 days ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Sheri,

      Have you felt all the other carpets in the vehicle? Water can travel and it may be coming in from somewhere else. Do you notice the water after a rain? Is there a sunroof in the vehicle? Windshields don't typically leak for no reason. Let me know, thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 6 days ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Sherri,

      The windshield could be leaking from a different area like the center and water could be trailing from that spot. Someone will need to lower the headliner to get an accurate point of entry. It should be very easy to find the leak once the headliner is lowered.

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      Sheri 6 days ago

      I am the original owner of a 2010 Honda Odyssey. Everything in the car is factory installed. About six months ago water started coming in to the car and pooling in the drivers side seatbelt receptacle. Then the water went into the Smart box by brake pedal. I have had my car at Honda for three weeks and they can't seem to find out where the water is coming in. They are suggesting that I replace the windshield. Can a windshield just all of a sudden go bad and need to be replaced? Any recommendations are appreciated!

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      sherri 10 days ago

      hi - i have a 2009 honda fit. still has original windshield. never been in an accident. no sunroof. the last couple of weeks it has been leaking when it rains. water is dripping from where the side airbag meets the roof material. my driver's seat gets soaking wet on the left half as a result. my mechanic resealed the windshield but it did not help. he can't figure out where the leak is coming from. any ideas?

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      Eddie Carrara 11 days ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Joanne,

      Check the front floor on the right side, make sure the water is not flowing backward from the front. If the front floor is dry, have someone remove the rear seat cushion and see if it is wet under it. Let me know what you find

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      Eddie Carrara 11 days ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Morris,

      I recommend having the sunroof drains cleaned and see if that helps. Let me know how you make out, thanks.

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      Joanne A. Bennett 2 weeks ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I have a 2006 Volvo S40 In March I notice the back floor (right &left) were extremely soaked. At the time I thought I left the back windows ajar. It took a week to dry using towel after towel. It happened again. I then went to a mechanic who checked the drain in the sunroof. result was the drain is operating well, but he didn't know how this water is entering just the right floor of the car. I experimented twice on different day when it rain, I would place a towel on the dry floor, and the next morning the towel would soaked wet. the left side of the back floor remains dry( always) it's just the right side, and this is when I'm not driving. the car is parked, just sitting, and when it rains, the right floor in the back gets soaked. I'm starting to think it's something under the floor of the car that is backing / bringing in water from somewhere. I can't keep living from towel to towel. please help.

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      Morris 2 weeks ago

      Water leaking from sunroof and drips inside and wets me on my thighs. Landrover td5. Morris in Pretoria please help.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jess,

      Has the windshield been replaced? Do you know if the AC drains under the car on hot days? Are you in a hot climate?

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      Eddie Carrara 2 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jodi,

      I wish I had a good answer but your rugs are musty and there is now way to completely get rid of the smell. If the rugs are still wet, I recommend letting your car run with the heat on high, floor mode, and with the windows open about an inch to let out the moisture, if you have AC, run it at the same time as you're running the heat. If your car still smells after the rugs are dry, try using a car bomb found on Amazon in the car section, this usually makes the car smell like bleach. Let me know how you make out Jodi, thanks.

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      infinitiJess 2 weeks ago

      Hi Eddie - I've actually felt the leak drip on my foot on the driver's side while driving and I've seen puddling up AND dripping on a hard reverse on the passenger side. I've also felt damp carpet in the rear on both sides at one time after a ton of rain. It only occurs during rain and can be while driving OR while sitting.

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      Jodi 2 weeks ago

      Hi eddie.

      My window is broke and it happened to break while it was pouring. Now my car smells like wet i get in. How do i get rid of the smell?

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      Eddie Carrara 2 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jort,

      Is the AC still cold? Do you smell a sweet smell inside your car when the windows fog? Let me know, thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Karen,

      Have you checked to see if the front carpets or trunk are wet? Also check your spare tire well for water and let me know, thanks.

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      Jort 3 weeks ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I drive an 10 years old BMW 5 series E60 model and I always have my airco on. For 10 years I had no problem with foggy windows in this car. But since a few months whenever I stand still and keep the engine running (waiting for the kids, or a traffic light) my windos get foggy within minutes. My garage has no clue.

      Do yo have an idea?

      Best regards, Jort

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      Karen 3 weeks ago

      I have a 2013 Nissan Altima and for some odd reason I have water in the rear floor board. We've had heavy rains lately, what could be the cause?

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      Eddie Carrara 3 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jess,

      Looks like you're being swept around. I don't think the engine replacement caused the leak. Which side of the vehicle is the water leaking into? Does it only get wet while driving? Does it puddle up if it rains overnight? Let me know, thanks.

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      infinitiJess 3 weeks ago

      I have an 2010 infiniti G37 - I had an engine replacement a couple of years ago - Infiniti did all the work and Progressive insurance paid for it. Shortly after I noticed water intrusion. I took it to Infiniti for a brake job and asked them about the water intrusion. They said it was NOT covered under my extended warranty, said it was the firewall behind the dash and its 4 labor hours to get to and 4 labor hours to put back, at their rate of about $100/hr I'm looking at a minimum of $800+ so I said, no thanks and took it to CarMax where I got the car and have the extended warranty (even though water intrusion isn't covered on the damn warranty). CarMax has a "Leak Detector" guy come in every week, he charged me $150 to find leak, said it was a sun roof drain disconnection and sent me on my way. But the leak was still there. Then I took it back again and he said windshield, still leaking so I have to take it back AGAIN. Now they want to re-install my windshield because its STILL leaking heavily. Is it possible a car just a few years old has a leak in the fire wall, or is it possible that the engine replacement caused this? I'm afraid Carmax guy doesn't really know and Infiniti wants to charge me for THEIR mistake, but what do I know about leak intrusions and engine replacements?? Any thoughts?

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      Eddie Carrara 4 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Yashica,

      Is there an antenna, roof rails or any other accessories like a sunroof on the roof of the vehicle? Is the mold starting near the windshield or rear back glass?

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      Yashica Wilson 5 weeks ago

      My 2010 suzuki sx4 leaks from somewhere that causes my back seat to get wet. I cant find the leak and I really need help because its starting to causeold on top off the roof of the car. Help pleass

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      Eddie Carrara 5 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jennifer,

      Has the windshield ever been replaced? Are you sure the water is not from running your AC system? Let me know, thanks.

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      Jennifer 5 weeks ago

      Hi. I have a 2003 Audi A4 Quattro. It recently has eater building up in the front passengers floorboard. It only seems to be when it rains. Could it be the windshield leaking and draining onto the floorboard possibly?

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      Eddie Carrara 7 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Marceia,

      Does the car have a sunroof? Has the windshield been replaced recently? Let me know, thanks.

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      marceia 7 weeks ago

      hello

      my driver passenager side gets wet every time it rain. especially when my care it tilted to the left. when it level it dont rain in my car. I not sure of the right side because I don't park my car to the right side of my street. Help please

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      Eddie Carrara 7 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Brandy,

      The only way to fix the windshield correctly is to remove it and reseal it by a glass company.

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      Brandy 8 weeks ago

      I have a Pontiac Sunfire 2005 and I had my windshield replaced and the passenger side was at first leaking and now the driver side is leaking a lot of water and getting my seat wet what can I do please help me thanks

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      Eddie Carrara 8 weeks ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Ernest,

      I recommend pulling back the rug and checking for the point of entry by having someone spray water in the area under the car, floor and wheel well.

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      Ernest 8 weeks ago

      I have a 05 ford 500 my floor board only filled up with water only when i run over a puddle of water

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      Eddie Carrara 2 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Kevin,

      Like I mention in the article, your best bet is to hose down the hatch area for a good solid 5 minutes, then hop in with a flashlight and see if you can see any water trailing from the tail light area, glass, sunroof drains (if you have one) etc... It's the only way to find a leak.

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      kevin 2 months ago

      I have a 1999 Cadillac escalade water is leaking somehow through the hatch back area. I took it to the dealership they say could be the weatherstrip around the hatch so I replaced it and still coming through. any other suggestions

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      Eddie Carrara 2 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Susan,

      I'm not sure why, but your car should still be under warranty. I recommend having the Nissan Dealer look at it, there may be a service bulletin out for your issue. Let me know what you find, thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jay,

      Once rust starts on a vehicle, it's nearly impossible to stop, it's like cancer for cars. There is a product in the automotive stores or on Amazon that is called Rust Inhibitor, I recommend buying some and see if it helps.

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      Susan Meyer 2 months ago

      I noticed stains above three out of four of my windows. Looks to be water stains. I have no roof rack or sunroof. My car is a 2015 Nissan Rogue. Why?

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      Jay 2 months ago

      I am having rust spots repaired on my 2005 Cadillac STS. The rust spots started by the rear wheels of the car and one spot on the gas tank. I don't want the rust spots to re accur so how can I find out were it is coming from and what can I fix it with? I believe from under the body water leaks in when it rains or during a carwash.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Talia,

      If your sure it's coming from the trunk, you'll need to have the trunk water tested, it's the only true way to find the point of entry. The good news is you know it's coming from the trunk, so start there.

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      Talia.C 2 months ago

      Hi! I have an 08 Ford Focus Sedan. It does have a sunroof. I discovered puddles of saturated water on all of the floors and in the truck on my car. No trace of leak or water damage on the ceiling or upholstery of the seats; only the floor. Originally is seemed it was one occurring on the right passenger side of the vehicle, but now its both. Seems to come from the right side of the trunk. No idea what's happening or why, but its getting bad.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi LeaAnne,

      Yes, it is very possible, but I also recommend checking the drain on the AC evaporator, the drain is usually on the passengers side near the firewall. Keep me posted, thanks.

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      LeaAnne 3 months ago

      Our 2002 Dakota PU is leaking massive amounts of water on the passenger floor in front and along the door. Is it likely that a windshield leak would only affect the passenger side? Thanks for any help you can give.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Will,

      It sounds like you may have a sunroof in this vehicle? If so, Have the drains checked for clogging. Let me know if you have a sunroof, thanks.

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      Will 3 months ago

      When there's somewhat heavy rain, I get a leak from my passenger side headliner and when I go to put my seatbelt on, it's soaked! Any help?

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      Eddie Carrara 3 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Mags,

      If you still have a leak, check the AC evaporator drain. Most vehicles AC evaporator is on the passengers side, if the drain gets clogged it can leak onto the passengers floor, so keep an eye on it for the next few days. Keep me posted, thanks.

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      Mags 3 months ago

      I just went in with my car for a huge puddle on my passenger side floor and what Ford found was my sun roof drain was clogged. So with the non stop rain it overflowed. Although there were no signs of it dripping down from there. We will see on the next rain next week if that did the trick

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      Jamie 3 months ago

      I have a 2000 Ford Focus. We have had crazy rains and There is a puddle in my passenger side front floor. I have looked for any sign of water and cannot find. The carpet area that extends under dash is dry also. I put a bucket in there where the puddle collects and today when I went out there the bucket was completely dry and the puddle underneath it again. Car is starting to mold inside because of this and don't know what to do. I soak up the water and scrub with towel to get as dry as can. Supsd to clear up for few days and I'll roll windows down to air out but I gotta find the problem

      No water near windshield. Heater works fine. When it was pouring I looked inside to find water coming in and couldn't

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      Eddie Carrara 3 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Kelley,

      Most likely its coming from the windshield seal. I recommend removing the glove box to get a better view of the point of entry. Let me know if you have more questions, thanks.

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      Kelley 3 months ago

      My car is leaking in the front, passenger side bottom region. It has been raining virtually nonstop for a day and a half, and both front and rear passenger side floor is wet. There is a small trickle coming down the inside right side panel of the car down under the glove compartment, and I am trying to figure out where that would correspond to on the exterior. I have a 92 ford tempo. Any ideas?

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      Eddie Carrara 4 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Campheel,

      Try removing the back seat cushion (bottom) and see if there is any water trailing under it. Between the two cushions (where the seat belts come through) there is a bolt in the center of the cushions, remove the bottom cushion by removing the center 10 mm bolt and pulling up from the back side of the bottom cushion. The front of the cushion has two hooks that may need to be released by a button on either side where the back of your knees would be if you were to sit on the back seat. Let me know how you make out, thanks.

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      Campheel 4 months ago

      I have an '03 Accord Coupe with a sunroof that I bought used a few months ago. We recently had several days of wet weather and I noticed today that the rear floorboard behind driver's seat is wet. The other floorboards are fine. I checked trunk and spare well...dry as bone. There doesn't seem to be any dampness in the carpet that would indicate it was running down the sides. The only clue??? I noticed is what looks like an air vent(duct) under the driver's seat that I guess provides heat to back seat?

      I previously had a similar problem with an '00 Accord Sedan that had wet driver's floorboard. That turned out to be a disconnected drain hose from sunroof. This one has me stumped.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Debbie,

      Cracked windshields don't usually leak because they are cracked. If you are running your air conditioner and it is humid out side, it's possible the evaporator drain is clogged. You'll need to find out where the water is entering the vehicle first before fixing anything.Let me know if you have more questions, thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Gary,

      If you can see water leaking in from around the glass, you will probably need to have the windshield replaced or resealed. At this point you would probably be better off replacing it. It sounds to me like the seal has failed.

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      Gary, 4 months ago

      Hi my Astra is 11 years old,recently noticed water is leaking from front w.screen into dashboard .never had this problem before.can anyone comment or help ??

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      Debbie Causey 4 months ago

      Have a cracked windshield and is has rained a lot and my front passenger floor is more wet than driver side. Is it the windshield?

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      Eddie Carrara 4 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Betty,

      Do you have a sun roof? Have you had your windshield replaced recently? What is the year, make, and model of your vehicle?

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      Betty 5 months ago

      When it rain the passenger floor side is soak wet why ??

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      Eddie Carrara 5 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi NColeman,

      Yes, you could try sealing off the sunroof with silicone sealer, it wont look pretty and you will not be able to open the sunroof. Over time you may need to reapply silicone because of body flex, so when you first apply the silicone, clean the area with a towel and rubbing alcohol where you will be applying the sealer to ensure a good bond.

      Hi A Richard Agosta,

      If the right front floor is wet only, Check the AC evaporator drain first, make sure it's draining outside the vehicle. If it is draining outside the vehicle, try using a coat hanger wire up the tube to unclog the drain. The sunroof drain is usually located behind the side kick panel near your feet. Keep me posted on what you find, thanks.

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      A Richard Agosta 5 months ago

      Hello, and I'm so glad I found this article. I have a RAV4 2013 front passenger rugs soaking wet and the car stinks. I'm going to check my sunroof drains but where are rocker panels located please. Thank you

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      ncoleman 5 months ago

      I have recently purchased a used car and found it to have a water leak from an aftermarket sunroof. It has evidently been this way for a while due to rust on the roof panel. the headliner is glued in, making access to sunroof difficult. any suggestions on how to resolve leak? Can I just add silicone between glass and external seal (I don't care for the sunroof to open)

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      LEAKPRO 8 months ago

      The smell is from the wind screen fluid. It comes in various concentrations. In Canada we even use -50 degrees Fahrenheit.

      The drains have to be checked for blockages. But the sloshing etc...tells me it could be the windscreen leaking and building up in the bottom of the pinch weld and sloshing side to side and dripping out of the dash either side. There are cowl drains located in the cowl area which is covered by the plastic under the windshield where the wipers are. You would have to lift up the cowl cover AFTER a big rain and look in there to make sure there is NO standing water. Send pics to john@leakpro.com and I can see if I could identify the leak area.

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      penny 8 months ago

      I have a 2010 renault megane with sun roof. After rain i'm getting a lot of water at the drivers and front passengers feet dripping from under the dash. I'm also hearing pooled water somewhere in the dash that can be heard splashing when turning corners etc. If i park with one side of the car higher than the other the water does seem to drain out of the car in the vacinity of the front wheel. I also as stated by another poster hear the sound of water hitting a hot surface (and you mentioned something about the aircon) when i use the windcreen wiper fluid to clean he windcreen i can strongly smell the cleaner in the fluid coming through the aircon. Water has caused minor electrical issues and i can no longer open the sunroof to check for blockages. Prior to the problem a smash repair was done on the car involving the removal and replacement of the front right side panel. I took the car to the renault dealers service centre and they have no idea but don't think they actually did any leak finding. They said probably windscreen although its never been replaced and there visual inspection found no isdues with it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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      Susan 8 months ago

      I had a new windshield put in my 2012 VW GTI. The next time it rained, water sprinkled on my foot while on the accelerator. A couple of weeks later, after my car sitting at the airport through a huge rain storm, water sprinkled my foot again, AND water ended up on the passenger floor mat. I took my car back immediately after first discovering the sprinkle, but was told it wasn't the windshield replacement. I don't believe them. It's actually leaking on both sides of the car!!!

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      Nicole 8 months ago

      After further checking the water is coming in through the hood release hole that the wire comes through. I did take a picture. There is a rubber piece at the bottom inside the car. I'm not sure if this piece is supposed to be at the top under the hood or what. I will send a pic to u your email.

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      Nicole 8 months ago

      We were able to use the garden hose to track down the area of entry of the water. Placing the hose near the windshield wiper, water pours in the car running down a hole with a wire in it on the very left hand side of the car. It was lower than the windshield which is why we thought about a seal around the windshield wiper. I have not had anything done with the windshield. I bought it Certified Prentiss Owned and my warranty has expired.

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      Nicole 8 months ago

      I have a 2011 Buick Regal with a sunroof. I have spent alot of time drying the carpet and foam out from what i nelieved to be a air condtioner leak. My drivers side front and back again had puddles. We had a day of rain over the weekend. I do not drive my Regal often as I have a different car for work during the week. My husband and I determined the water was coming through the windshield wiper post. Is there a seal in there to be replaced? I have also read about silicone or putty in there. What do you suggest for the best fix? I need to get this car dried up again..please any input is appreciated!

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      Eddie Carrara 8 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Teresa,

      If you can afford a newer car, I recommend replacing this one. Long periods of water damage can cause a lot of problems with cars, not just rust, but electrical issues as well. You need a dry car and one with less problems (rear end accident)

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      Teresa07 8 months ago

      I have a 2000 Toyota Avalon. Both front doors have damage to rubber seals around door letting water in with big rain. I put towels down and open doors in sun. Sometimes when its quiet in car and I come to Stop sign, I can hear water sloshing inside door? Is this possible? Recently had lady rear end me. Insurance saying total loss. I was waiting to have repaired...in the meantime we had tropical storm come thru. I tried to cover trunk with tarp. However, I had 4 inches of water in right wheel hub. Not as much on left side as plastic insert caught most. I have removed all water with towels, have trunk and doors open. Thought I had all and then noticed water under spare tire. Can I remove all water? Where is water going? Do you think I will have problems down the road? Should I try to have car repaired or give to insurance company?

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      Sam 8 months ago

      Hi, got one for you that's gotten the dealer and windshield glass place scratching their heads. I have a 2003 Lincoln Town car Executive. No sunroof nor has it been in an accident. Every time it rains I get four wet spots in the headliner above the where the drivers'and passengers' heads would be. When I go through the car wash no wet spots appear. There are no wet spots in the carpet or the trunk liner. They did a water test at the dealer twice couldn'the get the wet spots to appear. Help !

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      Pat 9 months ago

      Hi I hope you can help wit a Toyota Corolla ele 1998 automatic.1 previous owner, parked in garage, no accidents that I know of. I have always used same mechanic since buying that she has used over the years but found after a heavy downpour drivers side(right hand drive) the carpet was soaking.Dried out after soaking up with newspapers. then more heavy rain and same again. Contacted regular mechanic who said he couldn't work on this but advised me to go to other garage who could help.They said it can only be from the windscreen, even though he had never heard of a windscreen problem with a Toyota previously. He poured water down where water comes through from the windscreen and said that was ok not blocked and then took out the windscreen.Now more heavy rain and still car is getting soaking wet in drivers side floor again. There is no sign of any water coming inside the car and the carpet is fastened down. Do you have any ideas what can be the problem?

      really hoping you can help me

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      Cristy 9 months ago

      As an educator, and considering the educational system as it is, a change of career wouldn't be out of the question. :) So the silicone and tape method seems to have worked. No leaks from the door except where it's suppose to drip. Thank GOODNESS!! The door panel is reassembled. Just have to wait a few more days for the carpet to dry good then I'll work on the other doors. I've had enough for a few days. Thanks again. You've been a tremendous help. Now...about the emissions issues?!?!?! :)

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      Cristy 9 months ago

      Thanks. That's the plan. I've gotten the problematic door all siliconed and even taped the edges. The plan is to do the other doors as I can already see a tiny drip on the other passenger door where the plastic fits up against the door frame itself. I also used a sharpie and wrote "chevy sucks" under the poly-shield on the door frame which made me feel a bit better. Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!! Once the silicone dries a bit and I check it for gaps, I'll do a water test. If that passes, I'll put the door panel back on and then spend a weekend doing the other doors. For now, I've pulled up the carpet from under the rear portion of the front seat at the seat bracket. I have some plastic blocks propping the carpet up so that it drips from the foam and dries out. Once that's dry I'll reassemble the carpet and trim. If you want photo's of this issue for help with others I have it documented via photos and would be happy to email. Never expected such a thing. But with this car, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I'll let you know if this works. Thanks again.

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      Cristy 9 months ago

      Thank you! I was wondering about the poly-shields having to be sealed. As I mentioned the glue was sagging. It looked as if it had melted and thus the shield was droopy and had gaps. I can live with the wet headliner. It only happens if it's a prolonged downpour and it's minor. My plan at this point, regarding my wet floor, is to leave the door apart and allow the carpet to dry really well. I'm going to replace the poly shield and use so much silicone that the the silicone market will go up. Buy you up some stock. HA! I'm also going to remove the other door panels and silicone around those for good measure. I don't want to do this again. This car gives me enough headaches that have no solution regarding the emissions/warning lights and inability to put gas in it. I know how to use a caulk gun!! I appreciate your advice and help for myself and all the others I've read on here that you've helped. It's truly nice to have someone help us (and for free!) and not try and take advantage of us as so many dealers have done. So thank you for being kind enough to share your time and expertise with us.

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      Cristy 10 months ago

      Ps. I have lots of pictures of what I've described, if you want I can send them. Thanks.

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      Cristy 10 months ago

      I have a 2011 Chevy Maliu LTZ, 111,000 miles. Recently I have had puddles of water under my carpet in the back passenger side floor. I do have a sun roof and it does leak. Although the drains have been checked are clear. I've ran an air tank with low psi through the hoses and they are not clogged. I've ran water over the roof and can watch the water exit through the drain hoses. It usually only leaks when sitting idle in the parking lot at work during a heavy downpour. Just regular driving or normal rain isn't an issue. I occasionally have the tell tale stains on the head liner which are easily cured with some carpet cleaner and a little elbow grease. I took the side panel off just under the seatbelt bracket on the door frame between the front and back door. I removed the plastic cover from the area over the kick panel and to expose the frame and carpet edge. There's at least an inch of water puddled under the carpet and the carpet and foam sponge is soaked. It will take days to dry out. I pulled the carpet back and while sitting inside the car, had someone put a hose over the roof area of the door/window. Nothing came in around the door. A steady stream of water began to flow mid way between the door opening where you're feet would cross as you get into the back seat. It ran down the metal frame of the car down into the well where your feet rest while sitting. So, I opened the door and ran the water over the window area while watching. I noticed that water was dripping from the plastic door panel between the door frame and the plastic covering. Removed the door panel. The black foam/plastic sort of covering had come lose and there were gaps. The sticky strip of goo was no longer sticky in some places. It was actually droopy. Not sure if that was the problem or not. I removed the plastic/foam covering to expose just the frame and window. Ran the hose and it was like a constant shower, water shooting out the openings of the inside of the door frame. I've checked the drain holes in the door bottom and they are not clogged. Water does not puddle inside the door frame so it's running out somewhere (under my carpet). My question, is "could" the black plastic/foam covering not being stuck to the door well be causing the problem? I've checked all the door gaskets and seals and they are in decent condition. I've had nothing but weird problems with this car. I am never buying another GM product again. I have constant fuel/emissions issues regardless of replacing parts. It often gives me gas showers because although it's empty, the sensor tells the gas pump its full and shuts off. Sometimes I can only buy one penny of gas at a time. $20 in gas is 2000 clicks of my hand. I have a perpetual check engine light and after fill ups my gas hand drops to empty and I get a low fuel warning. I use my tripometer to monitor when I need to buy gas. Chevy should be ashamed. I have learned to live with the fuel issues and even have one of those handy tools to reset or erase the code. I use it at least once a week. It's how I manage driving this car. The water issue may just push me over the edge. Can you please help?

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      Tara 10 months ago

      Hey

      We have a 2015 truck have had 8 window put in so far and everyone of them has leaked water in and loud wind noises like a window is down we keep taking it in to the dealership week after week and they fix nothing

      Could the frame be twisted ??

      Anyone??

      Are we getting screwed over???????

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      kita 10 months ago

      i have a 2012 chrysler 300 limited edition, I have water come from under the dash, I have had the AC drain checked to make sure it wasnt the problem and it was clogged up. changed the filter and the car is still leaking water and cool the came before the water start running. It also make a funny lil noise when I turn the wheel. Please help

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      Domi 10 months ago

      Hi... I have a Chrysler 200 yr 2012 that when it rains I can see it dripping under the glove box passenger side of the car.... And if heavy rains soaks up the carpet on the front passenger side and back....now the air/heat system make a sound when you turn it on... If its raining to heavy... The ventilation system will not work at all. We hv not had the windshield replace and being that i can see the water pouring into the carpet underneath the glove box i know there isnt anything wrong with the windshield. We need help and a lot of mechanics don't understand what's going on and want to charge an arm and a leg just to look at it.. Please help

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      ALOK RANJAN KATIKIA 10 months ago

      i have a hyundai santro of 2012 model,three days back i noticed that there is a water seepage in driver side seat .i take my car to nr by hyundai show room but they checked and told me there is now way to getting water inside the footwell of co-driver seats .seems the problem is there because the seepage is not clear

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      Eddie Carrara 11 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi John,

      Thanks for all your help here. I've been moving 2 houses and living out of boxes for a bout 2 months now. Things are starting to settle down, I can almost see my desk/computer under all the debris, lol. I really appreciate all you do helping out here.

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      Belinda 11 months ago

      I had a clogged Ac drain tube. I did the compressed air thing and the drain opened right up! Woohoo. 4 hours later I go to move the car and its snapping, cracking and poping. The car won't start, after a few tries, my battery is dead. I'm guessing I blew the water onto something electrical? I disconnected the battery just in case. Any guidance would be appreciated.

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      Resh 11 months ago

      Hi John,

      Most things you've mentioned on there are for a Smart ForTwo not a Smart ForFour.

      This is the 4 door with the panoramic roof (no sunroof).

      http://autopazar.co.uk/media/753/Used_Smart_Forfou...

      ^^ that's not mine but same make/model.

      Is there anything you can advise on before I end up taking it to a garage?

      Thanks again for your help!

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      Resh 11 months ago

      Hi John (LeakPro),

      I came across this thinking you might be able to help but just noticed you are based over the pond!

      I have a Smart ForFour Passion, it's leaking and I can't for the life of me figure out where it's coming from.

      I have owned the car since last year and my sister 3 year prior to that. No accidents or replacement windshield.

      There is water pooling on both the driver and passenger side footwells, damp on the seats, now mould too! The back footwells are also waterlogged. No aftermarket mods all factory standard.

      I've checked out several sites to see where the leak might be coming from, I can't see any broken seals, I've cleaned out the plugs on the battery tray, tried looking for drainage holes which might be blocked (but couldn't find any drainage holes!)

      Any help is massively appreciated as I have a little on due in a few weeks and can't have a mouldy car let alone one that leaks!

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      John P 12 months ago

      leak pro, I am working through the repair.

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      Lynn 12 months ago

      Thanks for this info John.

      Is this the unit I can see with the glovebox removed? Car is right hand drive. I'll have a look for the things you mention in the next dry spell.

      No pictures, but I will post some if I have problems doing what you suggest. However would this explain why problem only seems to occur during rain or cleaning?

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      Lynn 12 months ago

      I have a 2002 Toyota Yaris (UK) which I've owned from new. No accidents or body repairs. No sunroof. Original windshield. No aircon. Heater working.Passenger dash mounted airbag replaced in dealer recall last year. Water entering on passenger side behind dash. Glove box removed, all dry behind, pollen filter dry. My mechanic has cleaned out leaves & debris from channel below windshield. We thought this was the problem but water still coming in when car cleaned or it rains.

      There is a missing bolt on a mudflap on passenger side.

      Do you have any ideas which may help to locate where water is entering car?

      Thanks, Lynn

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      lynda 12 months ago

      Hi this has been the only place I have found where someone has actually been able to help.

      I have a mazda 323 11yrs old bought 2nd hand and for the past 6months my boot space carpet is soaked and my back seats also but only the passenger side of car floor is soaked it's got that bad mould has started to grow.

      I was doing some investigating the other day and lifted boot carpet and flooring to find a large amount of water around my spare wheel like ALOT of water then I looked down the side panels and on both sides behind rear light above rear wheels the compartments are FULL of water also.i have no clue what to do.i just put alot of towels down to try dry up as much as possible until I can afford to get it seen properly.

      But any help or advice from here or anyone on here would be so appreciated xx

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      John P 12 months ago

      Eddie and Leak Pro,

      I have a 2009 Honda Civic with a drivers side leak. At first I thought it might be a leaking windshield seal. However I decided to do a systematic analysis with a garden hose. I started low and tested eight different spots to see if I could confirm a windshield leak or a body seam leak. On step seven I was up to the drivers side cowling, actually right below it, with the hood up. Mi pushed the hose back into the space toward the fire wall right next to the wiper motor, climbed in the car under the steering wheel with a flashlight. I had stripped back the carpet and soundproofing and with a fair amount of water pressure located the water coming into the drivers side near a seam. Very small space way up next to the factory installed speaker close to the exterior side of the speaker closest to the windshield.

      How do I repair this and how do I get up into that tiny space where there seems to be a ninety degree seam? What product do I use? To I attempt to repair the leak from the inside or the outside, and it outside, how do I get to it?

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      Eddie Carrara 14 months ago from New Hampshire

      Thanks John (LeakPro) for keeping up, your expertise is very much appreciated!

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      MarkX1 14 months ago

      Hello good people, I just now found a leak in my car-coming between the windshield and dome light. The car was bought 2013 (Ford Taurus Lim)Used Certified at Ford Dealer about 6 months ago, I can't get a hold of any one who can help me right now but am wondering if this is something they would fix or is it going to cost me? I'd appreciate any feed back, thanks so much..

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      LorLiny 14 months ago

      We on on Long Island, NY .

      I will try the AC drain test after I send this out. I will also try the door window test.

      I think we may have multiple issues here. Originally, we found water in the driver side front and rear foot well, which started our search.

      Also, it appeared wet under the back seat when it was removed so here are my thoughts:

      1. Front driver foot well- photo with circles- water seeps in there. Doesn’t pour in , but consistently wet. I think this is one of our main problems. It is also starting to seep out where the track is for the power seat.

      2. I am suspicious of those holes where the back seat rests. I sent pictures of how it goes to ground. I also found other holes (not rot- but opening in the metal, below that seat ridge. Is this a normal design or a flaw in this car? I would think this would cause the back seat to be wet underneath it. Should we try plugging these up? (Long story but another 2003 Grand Am with a long history of water in passenger floor –we found the factory never put in sunroof drain to outside and all those years it drained inside)

      3. After doing the water from behind the sunroof – I also did it on the passenger side too- This morning, I found a wet headliner on the back passenger side of the sunroof. Never noticed that before,. And even now when I look, it looks dry. Photo attached.

      When we tested the sunroof drain last week, We poured water in the front holes, and saw it pour right out from under the car- I l think it was the fender next to the door.

      I went to the car wash today and there was no water pouring in. Just seeping in the front driver side foot well. Thank you again.

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      LorLiny 14 months ago

      Hi Thanks for the reply. We have owned it since 2010. My son is the driver. No accidents or windshield replacement that I know of. Last year I took it to an auto glass place, and he tried blowing out the sunroof. (It was Jan so it was frozen- but I think he would have noticed it was not the original windshield) Both side view mirrors have been replaced. (A dinged passenger door) No aftermarket alarms. It has a factory installed remote starter .

      I did what you said. Didn't see water. I then did the passenger side. No water. I drove it on highway, around clover leafs thinking perhaps it collects somewhere .When I got home I saw a little water seeping in the front. It was on the driver floor almost next to the transmission hump is a circular piece of metal where you could feel water coming up. And also just in front of the left track of the power seat. I would describe it more as seepage, especially considering all the water I put on it. I pulled it in the driveway, where is is parked on a hill facing uphill. (This is the normal parking spot). I will see in the morning if anything else came out.)

      When we first checked this week and only had the carpet half pulled up and put my hand under , it was soaked near the console, which is close to where that circular metal piece was. (I do have photos.)

      In the back, where the bench seat bottom would rest, is a ridge, with factory cut holes. When you look in you can see two perfect circular holes to the ground. It looks like it is there on purpose. However there another spot of daylight I see coming through- somewhere in the middle of these. I can't get a good look, so I think tomorrow I will do a sprinkler and maybe car wash. I hope I am describing these correctly.

      I am very surprised there is such little water, as the car rugs have been very wet.

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      LorLiny 15 months ago

      Hi I have a 2006 Impala that has had wet carpeting on the driver's side floor, front and back. Seems to happen following a rain. Sunroof drains fine outside of the car. We had the cowl off and rain a hose a long time. Couldn't tell if the rug was soaked from previous rain or new water. SO we took the seats and carpet out. (Under carpet in all foot wells was wet. Under back seat, wet too. But I did not see any in the trunk by the spare tire.. We Ran water for a like a half hour- saw nothing. Drove the car home, I could see a tiny water on the floor by some sealant but only like the size of a dime. I had hope for rain tomorrow, but it may only be a little. With the carpet and back seat out, should I go to a car wash or put a lawn sprinkler under the car? My friend said it may only be coming in under adverse driving conditions like a driving rain and road puddling- something I can't recreate with a garden hose. I would appreciate any advice! Thank you . Lori

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      Lancer A61C 17 months ago

      Hi, I have the third Lancer in a row and all of them had leaking rear lamps, from where the water lands on the trunk sides and pours under the backseat and the car floor. I fixed them with windows insulator tape (P-profile) and squeezed the bolts normally. No more leaks, yet the water is still inside. I have pushed the carpet from underneath with toilet paper and left the carpet tied up for days and placed newspapers under it during drives on the highway, and also lifted the backseat carpet above the heating air nozzles and opened by the rear doors, where the heated air could get under the carpet and escape, I also noticed that there are rubber covered rugs under the front seat leg space, towards the engine. They assumably isolate the engine noise. These rugs stay wet, because the rubber does not let moisture rise, not that the normal carpets let it rise through either. Now as the moisture is under the carpets, it slides forward in braking and backwards in acceleration, and if you have parked on a hill, the water dribbles towards the lowest point. Unless the carpet is up, the carpet can bind moving water in new places, so water from elsewhere under the carpet or the leg space rugs will spread. Now, combined with keeping the rear seat carpets up and parking in uphill, I have found more water dripping from the front of the car, yet I will have to open the leg space rugs in the front too. I recommend getting the carpet off altogether. It is attached under the gear stick and handbrake, so open those including removing the front seats. Keep the carpet inside upside down until it is dry. Keep the leg space rubber coated rugs up with a window drying tool. Summing this up, all these parts must be dry lest the moisture moves under the carpet. Thank you.

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      Eddie Carrara 18 months ago from New Hampshire

      Thanks Marty,

      Let us know how things work out for you, your feedback is priceless for us and to other readers.

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      mas4557 18 months ago

      Thank you both for the quick reply! I never knew to keep the headliner open in the winter...I will definitely do so from this point forward. I will also keep the recirculating air off. I like to use the the auto temp feature - luckily it automatically defaults to bringing in outside air with the A/C on. Tomorrow will prove to be a good test as we are expected swing from the mid-60's daytime temp to high-30's by evening.

      As a side note, I keep my cars in our home garage when the flakes begin to fly and I park in a heated, underground garage at work during the day. I assume this is all good too. ;)

      Great posts and advice in this blog...I appreciate the reassurance!!

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      Eddie Carrara 18 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Marty,

      Recirculating the air is not dehumidifying the air, it's recirculating the moisture in the cabin. #1 Rule, never use recirculate unless you are using the AC, It will fog your windows thick and fast, especially if there is a lot of moisture in the air or in the cabin like when you bring in snow or water on your boots. Hope this helps.

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      mas4557 18 months ago

      Hi...my name is Marty - quick question on a new 2016 CX-5 that I recently purchased (literally less than 100 miles on the car...really liking it so far). There was frost yesterday morning, so I warmed the car up before driving to work. Windows cleared easily - the headliner was closed to my sunroof. When I pulled into my parking garage, I opened the headliner and saw heavy condensation...heavy enough to soak a microfiber cloth I keep in the car for cleaning my dash. I wiped the glass dry and removed the rag so as to not leave anything wet in the car overnight. This morning was warmer, so no replication of the issue.

      I am a bit unsettled since this is a new car. I never before ran the A/C when warming the car in the winter, but I understand that this helps and acts as a dehumidifier (same thing w/recirculating the air in the car). I live in Upstate NY and we are cruising into really wet weather. I suppose my question is if whether or not this is likely a one-time occurrence, or might there be a bigger issue looming?

      Thanks in advance for your help!

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      Eddie Carrara 18 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hey John (Leakpro) you're awesome, I can't thank you enough for helping out hear with your input and tips. The tip on the weed eater line is awesome!

      Hi Chris,

      You need to find where the water is entering the vehicle. When the car is parked on flat ground, where is the car wet inside, front or rear carpet? That is your starting point. If you can tell us the year make and model and if it has a sunroof, that would be very helpful on trying to point you in the right direction. Let us know, thanks.

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      Chris 18 months ago

      Strange thing is happening to my car. All of a sudden I started parking my car in the backyard and my resr drivers side has been wet. Sometimes it's dry and sometimes it wet. When I parked in the front of the house the carpet was never wet. How can you stop a car from getting water inside if your parked on an incline and the car is parked slanted but not in a straight position?

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      John 19 months ago

      I have a 2009 BMW 528 XI and the rear floor mat (drivers side) was soaked during a recent rainstorm. I took it to the dealership and they informed me that there was a problem with the sunroof and wanted to charge an exorbitant amount to repair. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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      Eddie Carrara 19 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jen,

      Most likely the leak is above the headliner. Is there a sunroof in your vehicle?

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      jen 19 months ago

      I have a 2006 Passat 2.0t and I have water leaking from the rear airbag area down and underneath the seat in the well... It is not going onto the floor just under the cushion of the seat, I just can't figure out where it is coming from because it is only wet at the airbag area not the trunk or anything...HELP!!!

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      Eddie Carrara 19 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Matt,

      Yes, it's very possible because the water may be leaking from the sunroof tray and following the drain hose on the outside, also the water could be leaking onto the head liner and flowing back towards the rear of the vehicle. Check it out and let me know what you find, thanks.

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      MattHirn 19 months ago

      Hi Eddie

      I think after reading all of these issues I know the answer but thought I would put all of the facts here.

      2006 BMW 530XI, when went through auto car wash, water appeared in the pillars in the rear drivers and passenger sides. Yesterday we received a deluge of rain in the NorthEast and this morning my daughter noticed that the seatbelt on the rear passenger side was soaked when she extended it. Additionally I have noticed that there is now water in the passenger side trunk (Where the battery and electronic components reside :) I am going to check the rear drains of the sunroof and see if there are any obstructions and go from there. Do you feel that the water could make its way back to the trunk on the passenger side based on the path that the water flows when draining?

      Thank you for all of your help.

      Matt

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      Eddie Carrara 20 months ago from New Hampshire

      Awesome Satoshi, and thank you very much for the update :)

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      Satoshi 20 months ago

      Yees, It was the wind shield gasket!

      Thank you very much for your advice.

      I really hope I don't have to come back here for a while! LOL

      Best Regards

      Satoshi

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      Eddie Carrara 20 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi John, good to see you're still hanging around, I really appreciate the help :)

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      Eddie Carrara 20 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Satoshi,

      The most common area to leak on any vehicle is the windshield gasket. I don't have any experience with AlfaRomaeo vehicles, but a water leak is a water leak and it's just a matter on finding the point of entry. Do you ever hear any wind noises from the windshield area while driving on the highway?

      With the carpet pulled away and a flashlight, you may be able to crawl under the dash while water testing the windshield to see the point of entry. Let me know if this is a possibility, thanks.

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      Satoshi 20 months ago

      Hi Eddie! My name is Satoshi and posting this from Sweden.

      We reacently bought an AlfaRomeo 147 (2001/No Sunroof/AC working fine for its age)and it is having water leaking on driver side of floor when it rains. Seems that water leaking starts from front and then goes further to rear. I asked a professional to clean the wind-shield drain. It gets much better after, but it still leaks. Now they think water is coming from beyond the fire wall after they performed a "trouble shooting" by removing carpet and so on . In order to see if they are right, they have to remove whole dash board and many many of other things which cost me a fortune. Shall I go for drilling floor, or there is a better solution?

      Please just ask me if you need more information.

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      Eddie Carrara 21 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Daniela,

      Yes, you can send me pictures on my website at http://www.simple-car-answers.com/Water-Leaking-In...

      Add the pictures to the Disqus comment box, there is a little icon of a picture in the comment box.

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      Eligerta89 21 months ago

      Hello. My name is Daniela. Can you help me , my 2005 Nissan Murano leak water from raining in Passenger side. I know when leak it is not at door it is some inc far from door can I send a picture to you

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      Eddie Carrara 21 months ago from New Hampshire

      Awesome Information Steveo. Thanks for taking the time to share, I really appreciate it :)

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      Steveo 21 months ago

      Hi. 2005 Honda Civic. I had water on driver side floor every time it rained. Water drops always inside the door frame and seemed to be coming from the roof and running down. After cleaning out 4 sunroof vents (not clogged) still water came in. After much searching I took off the ditch molding on the top driver side of the car because it seemed the water was coming from that area or the top of the windshield. About 3 inches from the windshield, in the welded ditch on the side of the roof, there was a hairline opening about a 1/2 inch long. Had to use my magnifying goggles and a strong light to see it. I put some silicone in there and pressed it in with my finger. Leak is gone. I credit my guardian angel with helping me find this. Hope this helps someone.

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      Eddie Carrara 21 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Amy,

      In most vehilces, water will drain to the rear of the vehicle because that is the way the floor is tapered. I highly recommend having the windshield checked first because it was replaced. I don't know if you have a water doctor in your area or if any of the local dealers use such a service, but it will be worth it to call aroud and ask. Let me know your thoughts, thanks.

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      AMY 21 months ago

      Hi! From a dealer, we bought my daughter a used Volvo S40 (yes, it has a sunroof) two weeks ago. And after a dry summer we had a big storm. We took the car to a local mechanic for a pre-purchase check and it passed everything but he commented on a musty odor which honestly we didn't notice. When we picked up the car, the check engine light went on. He quickly diagnosed the code and it was something to do with the fuel line sensor. He turned off the light and we scheduled a service. The light hasn't come back on so he couldn't fix anything. HOWEVER, after a very dry summer, we had a huge storm and the rear passenger floor is soaking (and no, she didn't leave windows open). I told her to shop vac the carpet, open the windows in the heat of the day, and we'll be there tomorrow evening. I've done a lot of research and figure it will be the clogged sunroof drain. (IF it's not, we're really in trouble.) It did have some body paint done even though the carfax was clean. It also had the windshield replaced. So first, we have to remove the rear carpet and let it dry. Any tips or link to how we do this? Next, is there a drain that goes to the rear passenger side or do we check all the tubes? Is it obvious how to remove the inside trims on the pillars--both front and back? Lastly, if not the sunroof, what do we check and where? THANKS!!!!!

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      Eddie Carrara 22 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Mark,

      I recommend using a hose with a sprayer nozzle in your wheel wells, it will reproduce the way water sprays up in the wheel well while driving. Also look in the trunk for water trails. Keep me posted on what you find, thanks Mark.

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      MarkJ 23 months ago

      My 1997 Altima trunk fills with water only when driving in the rain. The car sits on the driveway, and torrential downpours do not get it wet. But when I drive in the rain, or on a wet roadway the spare well fills with water. I looked with a flashlight under the rear wheel wells, and don't see any holes

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      Nicki 23 months ago

      My 2007 Lexus Rx350 is having some water leaking issues. I noticed that water is dripping in from my inside headliner. I took it to the dealer they cleaned out everything but it still does it.. The water drips on both sides of my inside headliner. ..I think thats what its called.I thought water would eventually pass through were my light buttons...no water..I pulled down the compartment were I keep my sunglasses...no water. What can it possibly be?

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      Eddie Carrara 23 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Sharon,

      It's sounds like your evaporator is clogged in your AC system. The water collected by the evaporator will usually drain under the vehicle via a drain hose coming from the evaporator on the passengers side. You can temporarily clear the drain by blowing compressed air up the drain tube, sometimes this fix can work for months. Let me know if this helps, and sorry for the late response, life is just very busy at this time of year :)

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      Sharon 24 months ago

      Mr.Eddie I have a serious leak of very cold water from under the dash of my Silverado I'm not smelling anything at all and it's not running hot either but it is saturating the passenger floor,I'm completely lost when it comes to Automotive repair,will you please try to help me & thanks for your time

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      Eddie Carrara 24 months ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Lois,

      No, it's not normal for water to pool up anywhere in your vehicle, it should drain somehow. Maybe your drains are clogged or maybe it has something to do with the window repair if it has never happened until you had your window fixed. It may be a good idea to bring it back so they can check it. Let me know if you have any other questions :)

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      Lois 24 months ago

      I have a 2003 Monte Carlo and have never had a rain problem until this week. Water was slushing around inside my drive side panel and the door frame. I'm told this is normal. I'm 82 and sure would like to know if this is normal before I take it to where I had my driver side window fixed.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Katrine,

      I recommend checking the gaskets around the tail lights, it's a very common place for water to enter a trunk on Civics.

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      katrine 2 years ago

      I have a leak in my trunk of my 97 Honda civic. Not to bad, I think it's the seams on the trunk of it self and it only gets water stains when it rains hard

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      OK Kim, cross your fingers :)

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      He says the noise started around the time he had the ball joint replaced. So he is assuming it's coming from there. He said he will be taking it to Tire Kingdom this weekend to have them grease the joint. Hopefully that will take care of the issue. I'll let you know. Thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Kimberly,

      Most aftermarket ball joints have grease fittings, does his have a grease fitting? How do you know the noise is coming from the new ball joint, is he just assuming or did he actually check it out? Let me know, thanks.

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      Hey guys because you were extremely helpful with my car I thought maybe you might know about a problem my husband is having with his truck.

      It's a 1998 toyota Tacoma 2wd 4 cylinder, he had a ball joint replaced 6 months ago & has been noticing the past few months when he turns the steering wheel either way it makes a squeezing noise. He tryed putting wd40 on the ball joint but it still makes the noise. Is there a cause of concern with this issue? Would there be another issue he is not aware of? Thank you!

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Kimberly,

      Wow, I love hearing great news, it's not every day you get a dealership to help someone out to that extent. I have a place on my website that you can write a review about good and bad shops. If you want to write a short review on the dealership just to give them some good feedback, go to http://www.simple-car-answers.com/Auto-Repair-Revi...

      If you don't want to, no worries. Congrats on the new windshield and thanks for all your feedback, this kind of site would not have the same impact without feedback from people like you and John (LeakPro) So thanks you, both of you :)

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      Turns out this auto glass company was not who changed the windshield. He said what probably happen is the person changed the windshield before trading the car in & said they did a botched job. My dealership is still going to pay for a new windshield even though it was done before they took the car. So I'm getting a new windshield. Thank you guys!

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      Hey guys,

      I contacted the toyota dealership where I bought the car & they said they had the windshield replaced before I bought the car. They are having me go see their guy at his shop today to either find the leak or replace the glass. My worry is not trusting him to do the job right since he messed it up in the first place. I will keep you updated because sites like this are a huge help for vehicle owners to be more knowledgable about their vehicles. So many mechanics will try to get over on someone, especially a female if he thinks she doesn't know any better. Thank you.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Kimberly,

      Usually windshields only have a $50 or $100 deductible. If you find the right glass guy, they may be able to remove it without braking it, it's a 50/50 shot.

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      We do have several as I'm in Baton Rouge, La. But finding a shop that's going to do the job right means I'll have to do some asking around. I do have full coverage insurance but being I just bought the car 6 months ago, going thru my insurance I'd have a deductible. Is it true the windshield will break if they take it out & try to recenter it & put a better seal around it?

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi John, boy am I glad to see you, lol. Hope you had a great vacation, it sounds warm, lol, something I could use here living in the North East :)

      Hi Kimberly, No problem on the double post :) Do you have any windshield professionals in your area? Maybe you should call your insurance company and ask if it's covered and who you should use that carries a good warranty.

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      Thank you for such a quick response! So sorry for the double post.

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      Also forgot to add it's on the passenger side, the plastic pillar that is along the windshield that meets at the headliner. .. There is a slight opening where the pillar/headliner meet. As I was driving I could see the water dripping from the pillar but if I was stopped it wouldn't unless it rained continuously heavy then it will wet a small golf all size spot on the headliner. It's frustrating because I don't know where or who to take it to be fixed... Thank you. I also read thru the forum trying to see if anyone had the same issue at the same location but I did not see any.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Kimberly,

      Most likely your windshield is leaking, there is no drain under the molding or weatherstrip, so either the gasket or glue is leaking. I recommend having a reputable glass company check the seal. Let me know what you find, thanks Kimberly.

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      Kimberly 2 years ago

      Hi! 6 months ago I bought a 2004 toyota corolla. The windshield does look brand new since it has no cracks or scratches. However when it rains heavy, I get drips of water that comes in from my pillar (at the headliner). It's golf ball size wet spot & I can see when I go to take off in my car the water just drips much faster. I do not have a sunroof. I can't tell if water is getting inside the pillar from the windshield or is there a drain hole possibly under the black strip on top of the roof. It does look like the rubber around the window is not straight. I put blue painters tape in the corner of the windshield as well as the black strip on top of the roof to see if that was the area, while the headliner didn't get wet this time. I noticed when I took off in the car water was dripping out the pillar. Thank you for any advice.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi LeakPro (John)

      Pepsimnobx has left a few pictures of his project at my website and I was wondering if you could give him a few pointers when you have a free minute. There needs to be some expert advice when someone gets this deep into a water leak. You can see the pics at http://www.simple-car-answers.com/Water-Leaking-In...

      Thanks in advance John, I really appreciate all you do!

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Pepsimnobx,

      Yes those seams are very difficult to get to, especially when it's 19 deg out side, I would have called it quits until it warms up, lol. It may be in your best interest to have the water doc look at it for $150, they may have a warm place to check it out, and they do have better tools and techniques then the average DIY guy. You already have it torn apart, so it may cost you only a few buck to fix the leak at this point. Keep me posted on what you decide to do, and sorry I can't help any more than this.

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      pepsimnobx 2 years ago

      hey again. well im really disgusted at the moment. its 19 degrees here and ive been outside for hours taking off the driver side front fender. just as i have suspected, i cannot get to where i need to get to work on this by removing the fender. i removed the parkng brake assembly, all the wiring that i could disconnect and i still cant get close to it. i mean i could fix the part thats visible in the picture, but know for a fact that theres still about a 12 inch stretch of seam under there that i cannt get to . i have a small mirror on a telescoping rod and was able to look with that into that area where i cant get too. i wish i could draw an arrow on the pic that i posted but if you look at the last pic i posted you can see the rust spot. if you look theres like a galvanized looking piece of metal, idk what it is or how to remove it but there is a thin piece of rubber with foam on the back side of it. there is just enough space between the rubber mat that you can see up in there with that mirror . anyway that rust spot in the pic is in the upper corner and that seam goes back toward the door opening, it runs just under the fuse panel etc. i just dont know what to do now . im to the point to either sell it or take it to the chevy dealship. theres a local water leak repair company here and they said theyd charge about 150.00 just to look at it. he said maybe 500.00 at worst. but im thinking if i cant get to that spot to fix it , how are they?

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      pepsimnobx 2 years ago

      thanks for the reply. I already removed the wiper cowl. I been trying to remover my wiper linkage so I can get my hand in there but I cannot get it to loosen off of the wiper motor. Is there any way to get access to the inside of that cowl. I was told to try3 m seem sealer and brush it on. However my arm is to big to get in there.

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      pepsimnobx 2 years ago

      hello everyone... i have a 1999 gmc jimmy my floor and padding in the drivers seat area floorboard and behind the driver seat , are completely soaked carpet and padding. i took EVERYTHING out of the truck i mean everything except the dash . anyway, i been investigating and i found that my driver door dont close properly i have to pick up on the door to close it. also above the drivers door the seals are falling off the truck and the little metal lip that the seal sits over is starting to rust. also, i took my wiper cowl off and tried to remove my wiper linkage so i can examine the inside of the cowl better. because i looked at my firewall inside the engine compartment i noticed a rust drip line the comes from the seam where the wiper cowl is inside the engine compartment. i did my best to look inside this cowl and i see some surface rust starting at the seams . so i went inside the truck and laid down and looked up under the dash and i see a rust drip trail coming down from i dont know where. its in the corner on the firewall and goes straight up past where i can no longer see. i vacuumed a ton of debris out of the wiper cowl. i cleaned it out best i could but i still am getting water in my drivers floor board. how do i fix it. im aftaid that this cowl or area where the wiper liinkage is is the culprit but i cant get in there to really do anyting . i doubt taking my drivers front fender off would give me access to it. im afraid if this keeps up my electrical stuff will be ruined.

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      Saudia 2 years ago

      I have a 98 lexus when it rains my car leaks on passenger side front and maybe back it just a lot of water. It just started leaking! Looked at sunroof no rust that I can see!! HELP is needed

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      harry 2 years ago

      in Baltimore 2005 Lincoln Town Car. water in passenger R rear floor.

      AND the tranny locked in reverse right after a heavy rain.

      Dealersays "replace Tranny [about $4500]

      i think it is a water electrical problem. Where do i start?

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Marge,

      I would start by fixing the visible leak at the windshield, then try resealing the rear tail light lenses. Just because there is isn't any water in the lens itself, doesn't mean the gasket between the body and lens isn't leaking. Try fixing those two leaks first and let me know how you make out, thanks.

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      Marge 2 years ago

      Hi Eddie... I have a 94 Integra and a bad water leak or leaks. A couple of years ago, I noticed the carpets were damp, and after looking around, found about and inch or more water under the spare tire. I also found water in the rear tail light. I sealed the tail lights and sopped up the water under the spare, and dried the carpets as best I could. Now, the water is back with a vengence! No water in the tail lights this time, but the water is back under the spare, and the carpets are more than soaked... there is actually a puddle on the front passenger floor. I know the wind shield needs to be replaced because I can actually see drips on the passenger side, dripping from top to bottom. I do have a sunroof, but I do not open it, and the headliner is not wet at all. I cannot find anyone around here to take a look at it to help me out, but then again, even if I could I am sure it would cost me an arm and a leg to fix it. I guess I am trying to figure out how to find and repair the leak cheaply, because I know for a fact I am going to have to replace the carpet, because it has been too wet for way too long. Any advice??

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      Sandy 2 years ago

      Eddie & John, You two are awesome! Such an asset to us out here that are very distressed and going through dilemmas over unexplained car issues. Thank you so much in sharing your knowledge. I will pass your suggestions along to the dealer. One good thing thus far is that they are not saying the roof needs replacing. Because it apparently isn't the source for leaks and it still looks great. I'll keep you informed on how things go. I truly feel it is an insurance claim due to the way it all started. But so far I haven't been successful in finding the right place to make the judgement call and it is very disappointing. Its interesting that after 3 different places none of them say the same thing where water is making its way in. Very strange. Later you all!

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Thanks LeakPro,

      You got a few more details in there then I did, lol. You Da Man!

      Sandy,

      I was going to ask the same thing, is you driveway sloped? Make sure to tell the dealer if it is, it can make a world of difference.

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      Sandy 2 years ago

      Hey Eddie its me again. Lol. The local dealer is testing out the possible leak on my car and they say so far no water is leaking into the trunk. That is totally very strange. I dont understand how that can be. It doesn't leak there in the trunk but sitting in my driveway it does every time. They are saying the car needs new seals around both doors and around the back glass. All to the tune of $1700. That seems extremely pricey to me. Should I shop around at other import service centers? After out discussion They are keeping it a little longer to see if they can find water leaking into the trunk like it has been doing. One thing I have noticed as the service guy and I discussed is that I have noticed when I have taken it through a car wash water doesn't leak into the trunk like it does when it's parked inmy driveway. Is there an explanation for this that you know of? Thank you!! So much. So much.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Zoya,

      Water will slosh around while you drive, so it is possible for water to enter the rear of the vehicle and end up in the front.

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      zoya 2 years ago

      Hi, I have 2002 ford focus wagon. I recently had to replace a rear windshield. Today, I noticed water inside the front cup holders, the bottoms of both driver seat and front passenger seat were soaking wet, and there was also water on the gear box/column. The rear of the car appears dry. It has been smelling very moldy but I found out the cause only today. Is is possible that the seals on the back windshield would cause this kind of water to collect in the front?

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Sandy, and thank you :)

      I don't think I would chance it with an aftermarket top, if we were talking about a muffler or ball joint, that would be OK, but not a convertible top. The top need to fit precisely, and I would only buy genuine BMW parts if it were my car, but that's just my opinion :) You may want to check with BMW, they may not even install the aftermarket roof for you. Keep us posted on what you decide to do Sandy, thanks, and I really appreciate all your feedback :)

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      Sandy 2 years ago

      Dear John & Eddie,

      I have found convertible tops online and they're not priced too bad. Do I dare take a chance on that resource? What recommendation do you have in case I have to replace the top for the 2002 BMW? Thanks a bunch.

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      Sandy 2 years ago

      Dear Mr Leakpro,

      Thank you for the wonderful advice. You are awesome. In answer to your question my car is in Evansville, IN. I drove her yesterday and what a great performing car. Such a shame this water problem has happened. My fault. I didn't know about servicing the top like you talked about. Where are you located? You all have a very merry Christmas and a happy new year! And I will let you a,, know when the verdict is in. Hopefully I will hear something today. God bless you all and keep up the good work.

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      Sandy 2 years ago

      Dear Eddie thank you for the quick response. The issues I'm having electronically sadly are from the tremendous amount of water that came into the trunk from the last huge rain before I had sense enough to know I need to be getting a cover for it which I did. A little too late for what damage has been done. Apparently enough water came in that it affected some parts of the electronics involving the hand controls on the steering wheel like the volume control for the radio. But amazing enough cruise control was not affected nor was cruise control or the heated seats. Or the window electronic operations. However the top won't come down anymore as it did before the last rain. The indicator light comes on but no action for the top to come down. I am optimistic though that hopefully it won't be as bad as it looks in repairing what was affected electronically especially the top. I met with my insurance adjuster and he recommended taking it to the local dealer and stop messing with other shops. Money was the issue as to why I didn't before now. I made an appt and took it in yesterday. Waiting for their verdict. I think the adjuster thinks like I do it is a broken seal stemming from the wreck as well. And as a last note it stands to reason the damage would have shown up sooner after the wreck if it hadn't been such a dry summer. Here is fall and all the rain starts. Flooding my car! Thank you. You are the best!

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Thanks John, you really gave some awesome information here, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer question with such great details.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Sandy,

      I can see where the water leaking into the trunk could be related to the accident, even the water in the back seat, but I'm not so sure about the electronic issues you're having, how is that related? Is the dash getting wet or is there just so much moisture in the vehicle that these things are not working? Let me know, thanks.

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      Sandy 2 years ago

      I'm having water issues with my 2002 BMW 325ci convertible. Interesting part is it has been gradual but that could be due to months of less going Into months of more rain. The problem stems it seems from an accident I had late summer when I backed into a parked car where my passénger bumper impacted the driver bumper of a Chrysler van. Since the accident I started noticing water leaking into my trunk and back seat getting stuff in it wet. Shops I have taken it to say they don't see that it could be accident related but a worn out convertible top when it appears in great shape for its age. The leak has progressed so bad over time that the last major episode of a huge downpour left so much damage now the top doesn't operate any more from the electronics circuitry making defects to hand controls on the steering wheel. Turn signals are affected among other electronic related things. My insurance adjuster met with me this morning of course wanting answers as to whether or not it is a justifiable claim relating to the previous accident or not and the burden is on me to find this out. What makes me feel it is a claim related to the accident is the fact the leaking problem did not start until then and also the where it appears that the water is coming in is on the same side of the car where the impact occurred. I don't understand why one of the shops involved just don't make the determination of an accident related water leaking issue and get it fixed by my insurance. What do you have to say about all this? The thing is if they would have taken care of it early on the damage was a lot less extensive 2 months ago than it is now.

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      Tony 2 years ago

      Hi John,

      Thanks for the thought but I think I will stay in my current career. Also thank you for your help. I never realize that so many people have water issues with their cars. Its good to know that there are people like you and Eddie out there helping us out.

      Best regards,

      Tony

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Tony,

      No worries about time, we all need more of it, I'm just glad you come back with updates, some people never come back with updates, so I never know if I helped them or not.

      Yes, pictures are great! I put a page up on my website and you can add pictures in the comment box. So try adding some pictures there, and if you don't have success, let me know, I can always add another internal comment box to add your story and pictures, that would be awesome!

      The link to my website page is 8 comment boxes above this comment box. I'm only allowed to add a few links to my website from here, so I need to be careful, I don't want to break the rules. No rush to add the pictures, just when you have time. I really appreciate you doing this for me, and I can't wait to see your progress. Text is good, pictures tell a story :)

      Eddie

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      Tony 2 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      Thanks for all your help in helping me solve the water problem I had with my truck. Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner, I was tied up with other projects and wanted to leave the truck out in the rain for a while to make sure the problem was fixed. In fact one of the rain storms dumped close to three inches of rain on the truck. I can happily say that the interior remained dry. I have installed new carpeting and now I am a happy camper. Eddie, you said a while back to send you a picture of the truck I would be happy to do that. Where should I send you that picture? I don't know if your interested in all the pictures as I went along, or just the final one.

      Also a thank you to John at Leakpro for his advice and the photographs.

      This by all accounts was not an easy job, but thanks to Eddie and John I feel that I could take apart any body part (hoping that I won't need to anytime soon) of this truck.

      Tony

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hey John,

      Thanks for all your input, I really appreciate you taking the time to help out. I did put up a new page on my website(link is above) just in case you want to add some pictures to show what your talking about. I'll be working on making the page better, so for now it's a work in progress page.

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      Kevin 2 years ago

      Thanks for the tip Leakpro. Being proactive I will take care of that to ward off future problems.

      I did a leak test with the hose on the window and sure enough I got a stream of water coming in from under the interior door panel. I will pull off the polyshield and re-"glue". Can you recommend a sealant...should I remove all the existing sealant and re-seal or just patch it?

      Thanks for your help! (Leakpro and Eddie) PS I can now understand how water can go undetected from front to rear as the carpet has a thick rubber backing and will not appear as wet...it continues to roll downhill.

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      Kevin 2 years ago

      I guess it didn't rain hard enough. I saw no water intrusion.

      As I was sitting in the car, I was looking at the door and was thinking to myself...I replaced the window regulator in that door not long ago. I removed the plastic sheet cover but did not use any new mastic to reseal it. I never thought that this was a water seal as well as a dust seal so I never bothered to do anything but push it back in place as best I could...It didn't seem like there was a path of water leading from the door...it could be I just wasn't able to observe it. If water was coming in from the door, this may account for the fact that water accumulated in both the seat well and the foot well (rear passenger side). The water in the foot well was pooled against the back part of the well up against the vertical part of the floorboard going up and over forming the seat well. I will get the hose out again and try running water down the rear window. Will let you know...kh

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      Kevin 2 years ago

      Thanks Eddie and Leakpro.

      No sunroof. I had my windshield replaced several years ago by Safelite Auto Glass. I watched (and helped by running out to get a new passenger air filter). They did an outstanding job and no leaks for two years till now. The installer told me about the common problem with the closed cell foam seal gasket which had fallen off the underside of the cowling allowing water to enter the area where the cabin air filter is located. He reattached and glued the gasket back. Since then I have had no foul, musty odors from the moldy air filter and had no problems. I did not know about the diverter. It would be nearly impossible however for water to enter from there and end up in the rear seat well. It is starting to rain here right now...so I am going to get in the car and see what I can...will report back later... kh

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi John (AKA LeakPro)

      I'm going to build a page on my website right now so you can share your pictures in the comment box. You can find it here http://www.simple-car-answers.com/Water-Leaking-In...

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hey Kev,

      Does the vehicle have a sunroof? If so, it's possible the drains are clogged with all the pollen and tree debris. Pulling off the seat back may help locate the problem, but I would pull the carpet back, then try running water over the entire top of the car, then get inside the car to see where the water is trailing from. LeakPro may see this post and have a better idea, but that's where I would start for now. Keep me posted Kev on what you find. Thanks.

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      kevin 2 years ago

      I have an '02 Chevy Impala (original owner) no accidents. As the car was sitting rain water accumulates in the passenger side rear seat well and foot well. It's a serious leak...at least a quart of water in the seat well. Somehow it gets over the seat well and ends up in the foot well...I pulled the rear seat it appears like water is traveling down a 1 inch wire harness from behind the seat back. I've tried running water from a hose over the rear window but oddly I see no water intrusion. I live in Atlanta now (previously Florida). There is a lot of pollen and tree debris which accumulates on the car. This stuff blocked the weep holes in the rear door and I did have a large accumulation of water in the door. I cleared the weep holes and flushed the door but still have the leak. I see no wet carpet in the front nor do I see any water intrusion in the trunk. I was thinking I should pull the rear seat back out and take off the rear pillar trim to see where that wire harness leads to. Any help would be greatly appreciated....Thanks!

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Carole,

      Did you check all 4 drains? One in each corner? Is the car parked on an angle or slope? Let me know, thanks.

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      carole warran 2 years ago

      Hi I have a Nissan micra with a slide inner then wind up or across sun roof the problem is that the water is dripping at either side of sun roof , my husband put warm soapy water through the tray to see if the drain holes are blocked but they ran out so they are clear then he shut the sun roof up and slid the interea part shut and poared a jug of water over it and no leak, today it rained again ha I live in UK so nothing new here

      The. Passanger seat wet again so had the sliding bit back and the water seems to be coming from the glass in the roof.there are plastic strips there but they are not sealed down ,are they supposed to be stuck down or not ?and how is the water getting there in the first place, I have got plastic bags on seats while not using the car and then when i get in I have to sit on another dry piece of plastic or else I get a wet bottom ,and my passenger sits in the back seat as its dry with no drips any ideas please

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi John, welcome back :)

      I will have to write a new water leak article on my website when I have a free day, that way you can post pictures and comments without restrictions. Here on Hubpages, they will only allow text, no video or pics. I'll let you know when I have the new page up so you can interact with pics, but for now, thanks for all your input, it is priceless information for the do it yourselfer, thanks again John, I really appreciate it.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Wow Tony, thank you for pointing out the importance of water testing before putting everything back together, lol. This is crazy, I wonder if the seller knew how bad the water leaks were? I will be expecting pictures, because I know for sure this will work, just be sure to water test the entire cab (front and back) before installing the new carpet. Keep me posted Tony, and no worries about time, I think I'll be here for a while :)

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      Tony 2 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I have been away so have not had a chance to post here. My troubles are not over yet. When I water tested my truck I only tested the drivers side because I thought that was the only side leaking ( my mistake). I had taken out the seats and moldy carpet, and was waiting for the new carpet to come in. In the mean time it had rained here quite a bit, when I returned home from my trip I could see some water on the floor on the other side, here we go again. On closer inspection up under the dash I could see where the seam sealer is some of it was cracked. I used a putty knife and pulled away the old sealer and could see rust behind it. So I took off the hood, grill, bumper again and removed that fender. There were a lot more connections to remove on this fender, but the fender came off easier than the other one with only one broken fender clip to deal with. I had said some time ago that I had stuck a fiberglass rod down this fender and under the truck was a pile of twigs, empty acorn shells, and dirt. By the size of the pile, and no more coming out after poking it with the rod and blowing air down it, I thought I had removed it all. I was wrong. When I took off that fender I removed another pile of dirt, the pile was 2-3 inches high and 7 inches wide on the floor. I could also see that the seam sealer was cracked a little on the firewall about where the water was entering into the truck. I have since resealed the inside and outside of the wall, and ready to put the fender back on hopefully in the next day or two. I don't think that I can drive the truck out of my garage without the fender because of all the electrical connections, plus I would want the hood back on before I start pouring water down there. I feel that maybe because of all the dirt and junk in there the water was not draining out and backing up and entering into the cab by way of the cracked seam sealer. So I think I will have to water test it after I put the fender back on. The floor inside the truck is bare so I will see right away if I was successful or not. I will let you know, and send you some pictures if this all works. Boy, this has turned into a major project. One good thing about all this is I'm no longer afraid to take apart the truck. I will keep you informed.

      Tony

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Tony,

      That's great news! I know you put a lot of hours into it, but you have learned so much in the process, a few things on buying, and a few things on fixing them, you even learned a little about yourself, you are more capable then you thought you were :) It's really great to have a success story like yours on this page, not too many people will jump right in like you did and get things done. Hopefully it will empower more people to tackle a job or two on the weekend, even if it takes a little overtime. So I want to thank YOU, for taking the time to post all the updates, I really appreciate it. If you ever need any automotive advice Tony, you know where to find me. You can also find me at my own website at www.SimpleCarAnswers.com, you can post comment there and put pictures in the comment boxes. If you have some time, send me a picture of the truck and a quick note, that would be great! Take care Tony :)

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      Tony Botelho 2 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I had to put the truck on hold for some days because of other business, but now ready to get back into it. I water tested it and it did not leak into cab, (this was good to see). So I put it all back together again. I found the truck to have a moldy smell to it so I took out the seats and all the trim pieces lifted up the carpet and sure enough it was wet and moldy. I removed the carpet, dried up the wetness, wired bushed the rust spots and primed it. I will now have to find a replacement carpet, (any ideas). I would like to post a warning to people about buying a auto that has a water leak problem. I bought this truck from a retired dentist in July who seemed like a nice guy. He showed me repair records and other than a lot of scratches on the truck smelled to have taken care of it by what i could see. The air freshener in the truck should have been a clue to a smell he was hiding. I should of asked him if there were any leaks, or problems with the truck. Like I said he seemed like a nice guy, my mistake. When all is said and done I will have put in over three hundred dollars in materials and countless hours trying to correct this problem. Since I bought the truck in July I have use it so little but looking forward to it being of service to me soon. I want to thank you Eddie for maintaining this site, and for the help, and giving me courage to tackle this repair.

      Best regards,

      Tony

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hey Tony,

      Good to hear you got it off, and yes, you are definitely going in the right direction. All the sand and debris stuck in the fender is causing your truck to rust , so removing, cleaning, priming and painting is the best this to do while your're in there. Just remember to water test it for a long time while the fender is off after all the repairs are done. You don't want to take it apart again because you missed something the first time. I can't emphasize how important it is to double, triple, quadruple check with a water test, water test it for an hour with a slow and steady soaking in the area of the leak. Keep me posted on the outcome Tony, and thanks, I really appreciate it.

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      Tony 2 years ago

      I did get the fender off by cutting off the head of the bolt with my air cutter, then used a punch to knock out the bolt into the fender housing. I had called up a friend who is a weekend mechanic and he suggested cutting off the head of the bolt as I see now is also what you suggested (I had not read your posting until now). I found the bottom of the fender which has a cavity about four inches wide and eight inches tall packed solid with wet dirt. This is where the water that comes off the windshield is suppose to drain out of, so the water must have been backing up and going into a seam, or else where. I did take my seam sealer and ran a bead all along the seams for good measure. After cleaning out the bottom of the fender I could see that where the dirt was the metal was all rusted. I removed any loose rust and primed the area with a heavy duty primer. I feel now that water should flow through this area without any problem. I didn't take off the other fender but took a fiberglass rod and started poking from the top. Under the truck I had a big pile of small sticks, acorn shells, and dirt. I was also able to stick down there a long air wand and blow out the rest of the stuff that was in there. I'm taking this time to sand, prime, and paint the fender and all other rusted metal that I can get to. Does this sound like I'm going in the right direction, and the dirt and junk that was in the fender was part of the problem? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this.

      Thanks,

      Tony

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      OK Tony, No rush on the updates, take your time and hopefully you'll add a few new screws to this project :) Try drilling the broken bolt head off or grind it off if possible, maybe you can get to the other side of the broken bolts after the fender is off. Good luck Tony, it's my pleasure helping :)

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      Tony 2 years ago

      Eddie Please, no need to thank me. You are the one I want to thank for maintaining this web site, and helping people like me with their leak problems. I have not had the time to work on the truck in the last few days but will keep you informed as I go along. Once I can get out the two bolts that are broken I should be closer to removing the fender. I really want to see what's behind this fender and solve this leak problem. As a small boy I was always taking apart stuff to see how it worked. Most of the time I was able to reassemble the item and it would work fine with the exception of maybe having an extra screw or two. This time I hope to not have any extra parts left over. I will let you know, thank you.

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Wow Tony, I didn't realize it would be that involved, but if you feel comfortable doing it, it the best chance to find the point of entry without removing the dash. Just remember, working on cars is like making a jigsaw puzzle, you just need to fit the pieces together to see the big picture lol.

      Keep me posted when you have time Tony, I really appreciate you updating me, it's keeps me in the loop and it really helps other readers who may have a similar problem, so , thank you.

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      Tony 2 years ago

      This may take me some time before I get the fender off, but feel that I am on the right track. I did go on line to see how to remove the fender, which is somewhat involved. I need to remove the grill (done), head lights,bumper (half done), eight bolts from the wheel well, six have been removed, two have broken the clip that holds them in place so the bolt just keeps turning without coming out. One I may be able to get a vise clip wrench on the broken side to help with that removal, the other one I have no idea at this point how I will get out because I only have access to the bolt head. Any ideas? Then there are maybe another 8-10 bolts to remove, a couple will be tricky because I will need to remove the windshield washer tank, and maybe the air cleaner housing. There is also some stuff attached to the inner fender wall and something inside the fender wall that may have something to do with the air bags, not sure. I will let you know how this all goes. Thank you for your suggestions, Eddie.

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      Tony 2 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I am so glad you suggested taking off the fender, I had been thinking of doing just that. I was not sure if that would give me access to where I needed to be, but seemed to be the next logical step in trying to solve this problem ( other than taking apart the whole dashboard). It did look like the fender was held on by four or so bolts. I will let you know how this all goes and if I find the entry point of where the water is entering the truck cab. Thank you for all the help!

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      It's my pleasure Tony. Keep me posted on what you find, so if the water is being pored below the windshield and it is still entering the vehicle, then the windshield is obviously not your problem. You may want to remove the fender so you can check that seam. It sounds like you're pretty mechanically inclined, and removing a fender is pretty simple, couple of bolts and clips, it looks daunting, so don't be fooled, it's easy, lol, you just need to line everything up when re installing it, but usually the body is painted after assembled, so it's real easy to line up the bolts again by the paint lines. Let me know how you make out Tony, thanks.

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      Tony 2 years ago

      High Eddie,

      Thank you for getting back to me so soon! The windshield looks good and don't know if it has been replaced but feel that is not the problem. I had my wife pour water from a watering can in the corner where the mouse nest was below the windshield. I had my head under the dash where I had pulled away the carpet and the sound proofing and could see the water dripping down the seam. Could the entry point be some where in that channel that runs along the inside of the fender? Once the water enters that corner drain I can't see what happens. By the way the water pours out the bottom of the fender I feel that it is not blocked up. I will have my wife pour the water slowly so that it only runs down the lowest point of the cowl, and have her increase the flow if it is not leaking. I do find it hard to believe that after all that I have done to seal up the cowl on this side of the truck that any water could enter for the cowl area. Thank you for the advice and all that you do on this web site to help people!

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      Eddie Carrara 2 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Tony,

      When you're water testing the truck, how are you doing it? Are you starting at the top or base of the windshield or putting the hose in the open cowl? Water likes to trail along seams, wires and beams so you need to be able to see the point of entry. What you have fixed is good for any future problems, but I don't think its the point of entry right now. The best way to figure this out is to stop pulling your hair out first, no just kidding, haha. Use the hose an low pressure with no spray, just an open hose, and start at the lowest point in the cowl area and move up slowly until you get to the point when the water starts dripping in. How does your windshield look, do you know if it's been replace? That is the most common problem with leaks behind the dash.

      LeakPro should step in here pretty soon, he is a well of information on specific vehicles with water leaks, so give him a few hours to see the post, but mean while, try moving the low pressure hose from the lowest point to the highest point. Let me know if this helps.

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      Tony Botelho 2 years ago

      Hi Eddie, I have a water problem that is driving me crazy...hope you can help. I have a 2000 GMC sonoma truck that I bought recently. After washing it I found the drivers side carpet wet. I pulled back the carpet and could see wetness along the metal seem under the dash. After taking off as much plastic housing as I could I could see that it was coming in from further up. I didn't want to remove any more of the dash for fear of messing up something. I talked to the GM dealer here in Vermont to see what was involved in them taking off the dashboard. They said 8-10 hours at $120.00 an hour, I said that's not happening and would try to fix it myself. So far I have 40-50 hours into it and it is still leaking. I'm starting to pull out my hair and my wife is asking me to stop that because I have so little hair. This is what I have done so far. I have pulled off the cowling plastic cover below the windshield and found a big rodent nest in there, I vacuum that out and could see rust under where the nest was. I removed the wiper mechanism so I could get in there better.The metal looks solid just rusted. I cleaned it the best that I could ( I can just get my hand in there) and wire brushed it. I used the 3M seam sealer and with my finger pushed it into the seam and everywhere else. I didn't realize that the seam sealer was water based and when it dried I could see some rust spots coming thru the seam sealer. Wiped it down the best I could and brushed on a heavy duty rust primer, and to be on the safe side covered all that I could with silicone. All the while I had covered the drain hole with putty so as to not block it up. I waited three day for everything to dry, removed the putty, and put water into the cowl well. I could see that it was draining well the way it should. I looked into the truck and saw that the water was dripping along the under dash seam. I went back to the auto parts store and told them what was happening, they said to try this spray can of Permatex sealer. The can said 3-5 coats, I did eight coats over a period of time to be on the safe side ( I did put putty over the drain hole again so as to not block it up with the sealer). Guess what, it is still leaking into the cab of the truck running down the seam. Any ideas? Thank you.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Thanks for the input LEAKPRO, it's always good to get a second set of ears on a problem :)

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Renee,

      Have you ever had the windshield replaced? Does the vehicle have a sun roof?, let me know Renee. If we wait long enough, LEAKPRO may see your question and have a direct answer, but let me know about my 2 questions, thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Pbrumb,

      Does your Civic have a sunroof? If so, it's possible the drains are clogged or a line has become loose. Let me know if you have a sunroof, thanks.

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      pbrumb 3 years ago

      Hi there,

      I get water on the driver's side floor of my 06 Civic coupe every time it rains. Sometimes it is completely drenched. A couple days ago some water dripped onto my leg from the area where the fabric of the roof meets the plastic where the side curtain airbag is stored (to the left of the visor). Could these two things be related? Can you give me some advice on what to look for and what I should do? Thank you in advance!!

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      OK then Hk2, just keep an eye on it, and keep me posted, thanks.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Thanks...Checked again... I don't think it smells sweet--at least not usually!

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Hk2, no problem :) I would take another sniff of the exhaust smoke, if it smell sweet, I would be concerned, if not, top off the coolant again and keep an eye on it, we'll figure this out eventually.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi, Eddie, I didn't intend to be back so soon but the antifreeze seems to have gone down again to almost the low line (cold engine). They just filled it up to the full line a few weeks ago and confirmed no leaks under the car. I didn't check under the hood again till a few days ago...but should I be concerned? I do notice that my car emits exhaust smoke (usually pale) continually whereas other cars don't.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Been there done that :)

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Thanks for the tip John, it's nice to have someone on my side who deals with this stuff every day, lol. May I suggest a little silicone spray or paste to help ease the grommet back into place?

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      naser 3 years ago

      Hi , thank you for your help to every one , Iv got a Mazda 6 .today I found alot of water on driver side floor ,both front and back . it doesnt look like leaking as the amount of water is so much. The water is very clean . it is not coming from heater. what do you think ? thanks again

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Thank you very much Hk2, that means a lot to me :) You know where to find me if you need me .

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Okay... That's great. Hope you're right! The visual really helps!

      I'm sort of in Kindergarten when it comes to cars, but do love to learn.

      You're a great teacher!

      Hope all is going well for you, Eddie, and on your new site...and that 2014 brings lots of good things your way! Thanks again:) :) :) :) :)

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Hk2, the kind of smoke I'm talking about is thick white smoke that lingers in the street and leaves a tail behind your car like a jet flying at 30k feet. What you are seeing is normal exhaust gases, and I really don't think you need to worry about it. Keep an eye on your coolant, but don't watch too close. :)

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi, and thanks again so much for your input. The smoke is usually white, but sometimes more pale or transparent...Not sure I would describe it as "thick" although sometimes it looks rather thick and white. It usually has an exhaust type smell (but I don't think I would describe it as sweet?). Today, I stopped and checked it after driving for a while (put it in park and got out and looked with it running in idle)...and it looked almost light tan in color--or "dirty" and (surprisingly) seemed odorless.

      There always seems to be some sort of smoke coming out the exhaust, even when no other cars around me on the highway are emitting any exhaust smoke. I asked Toyota about it today and they said it sounded like condensation and probably wouldn't be a problem unless I started noticing the engine overheating and then it would probably be related to the head gasket, which could be expensive to repair. They seemed to suggest that I sell or trade-in the car if it looks like it is related to the head gasket. I would prefer to do that too but it isn't a viable option at the moment. What do you think about the condensation theory...and if it is true that that is the cause, is it anything to be concerned about? I think the car has always emitted exhaust smoke but I never really noticed it too much earlier... didn't really realize that was abnormal. It has always passed the emissions test, but maybe that is unrelated?

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Hk2,

      If the engine was burning coolant, the smoke out the tailpipe would be thick white smoke and it would smell sweet like maple syrup or candy. If the engine has only 27k miles on it, and you have a blown head gasket, toyota should help you out with the problem, especially because you have been having issues since it was in warranty and there are records of this :) I would keep an eye on the coolant Hk2 and let me know what happens, thanks.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi, Eddie, I'm back with another question or two on the Rav. (Have tried to take a break from all the car issues...but they seem to have continued!) I noticed recently that the coolant level was going down again. On a cold engine, before starting, it was at about an inch below the LOW line. When I had the water pump replaced this past summer, the tech told me if the coolant level went down below the LOW line again to bring it in, as it would indicate something wrong. I called and brought it in and they put it on the rack and said there was no leaking. They asked if I had added any coolant myself, which I had not, so they didn't think there was any need for concern, topped off the coolant level, and said not to worry too much. Said it is likely from an internal exhaust leak? That didn't sound good to me, but when I asked more questions, they sort of shrugged it off, said it wouldn't be serious unless the Check Engine light had been coming on. Then they asked if I had noticed exhaust smoke when driving (after initial warm-up of about 10-15 minutes)...which I have noticed on several occasions (I think ever since I had the car). I've noticed that even after driving for 20-45 minutes, white smoke is still coming out the exhaust...which they say means it may be burning antifreeze, but "not to worry about it." From a quick search on the web, I'm feeling a little concerned about it. Can you help clarify? (The car has about 27,000 miles.) Also, there is often almost a buzzing or vibrating sound seemingly coming from the engine but it happens intermittently (both at idle and while driving). Probably unrelated to the exhaust issue, but have been feeling a little concerned about that too...

      (Also, I'm wondering now if the water pump never really needed replacing and if all along it was an internal exhaust leak...but now the warranty is out...)

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Denise, I think you're on to the source when looking at the back glass, don't let a good looking gasket fool you, you should try to water test it with a garden hose if you can. Does the vehicle have a sunroof?

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      Denise 3 years ago

      I have a persistent leak in my car trunk that wets the carpet, on the left side, every time it rains. I have tried to pull back the plastic trunk paneling to see the source of the leak and thought I found it on the tail light. I 'caulked' around it with silicone and unfortunately, it was not the solution. It rained again, and I went out and was trying to pull away more of the paneling to see around the side of the trunk to locate the source. It is attached to the hinges of the trunk door so I can only go so far to see. The leak is coming down the inside of the trunk and running down to soak the very left side of the carpet. I have looked at the windshield gasket ( it looks old but still sealed) and have looked for any other open areas. Reading the other replies has helped but we are still looking for our leak source!! Any suggestions would be helpful!!!, My car is a 95 Ford Escort.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi John, I think finding water leaks is one the hardest problems in the automotive industry, so my hats off to you my friend. I was the go to guy for water leaks and noises in my day, now I help the new generation mechanics find them, lol.

      I don't usually let readers promote their businesses through my articles, but I feel you are one of the few who really are in the business to help. I hope my article can generate a some business for you, and thanks for the great feedback, It really means a lot coming from a professional like you.

      Eddie Carrara

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      No, it doesn't sound the same. If the knock had anything to do with wrist pins or bearings, those type of noises are heard under light acceleration, especially in first gear.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Wow, so interesting... I wish the Toyota mechanics knew!

      Each time the techs at the other shop heard the knocks, it was without any acceleration.

      Car was in Park with hood open; engine was running with no acceleration.

      Knocks could not be heard till fan came on. Right after fan came on, they were discernable.

      Do you think this could still be the same knock as in the Hondas?

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2, and welcome back :) Yes, the Honda engine noise is a faint knock.

      My wife just bought a 2013 Honda Crosstour, and the engine, on acceleration has a slight knock, it's a charistic of Honda engines, but I thought Honda would have taken care of it by now, lol. I wounder if the Toyota has a similar noise?

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi, Eddie, I'm back with an update. I took the Rav back into the shop where the two techs heard what they referred to as engine knock or "rod knock"... The two original techs weren't there but a third tech listened under the hood with me and also heard it. After starting the engine, we were not able to hear it until the coolant fan cycled on...then you could hear the knocks faintly. They would get louder for a few seconds, and then quiet back down. Next day I took the car to the dealer and could not get the sounds to duplicate. We listened under the hood for at least 15 minutes. No knocks. Mechanic at dealer says he doubts that it could be a rod because it would not be intermittent. I called back the first shop, and the tech agreed that rod knocks would be continual but he said he thinks the techs at the dealer couldn't hear the knocking because of other noises in the background, including the cylinder head which is "louder than normal." All three techs at original shop seem certain that what they heard would eventually require motor replacement. Dealer feels hands are tied until they actually hear the knock...but they say it would be highly unusual for a car with such low mileage to need a motor replacement...and they don't think they would recommend that or that I will have a problem with it down the road. They also said that even if they heard the knock they may not agree as to the cause. I am wondering if the noise in the Honda engines you referred to sounded like a faint knock...and how old the cars were....and if any other insights come to mind! Thanks again, Eddie. It has really helped to be able to run things by you...

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Susanne, do you have any accessories on your roof like a roof rack, antenna or sunroof? Let me know, thanks :)

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      Susanne Noga 3 years ago

      Eddie:

      I have a water leak in my Saturn Ion 07. I have had the seams resealed and still I am getting water. Any ideas? It is coming in the right top side of the trunk.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      If you can clear the drains with compressed air, that works the best, but is that what's leaking? I see the headliner is falling down, if I were you, I would remove it completely , it's no good and it needs to be replace anyway. Once you remove it, close the car up tight and water test it to see where the water is coming in, it's the only way to figure it out and it's obvious it's leaking near the headliner. If you want to do this yourself, remove the headliner and find the point of entry. I'll help you in any way I can, so I'll be right here if you need me :)

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      VW Leslie 3 years ago

      I found on the internet a recommendation of threading small weed eater line through the drain hole on VW....

      I don't know, if this solved the problem?? clueless....

      I want to do as much as I can... before taking it to a shop... I really can't afford expensive repairs and something tells me this is going to be one.

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      VW Leslie 3 years ago

      I went to car today and tested the the drains in sunroof.... the left one by the driver side was a bit sluggish letting out water.

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      I enclosed pics.

      I let back the sunroof and the whole headliner section around the sunroof fell out and it was moist under with particles of material under.

      I think there is a leak by the sunroof or maybe its fixed that I poured water through the drains and cut/ enlarged the drain nipples on VW in door.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      I would start by removing the trim panel that runs from the headliner to the dash along the drivers side of the windshield, and then water test it. Mostlikely you will see your point of entry. Let me know what you find Leslie, thanks.

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      VW Leslie 3 years ago

      Its getting loose, I think the sun maybe is making it loose.... It will bve a few months before I do that... I am more concerned about leaking in driver side... floorwell area... That's the only leak, that I have....

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Why are you replacing the headliner?

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      VW Leslie 3 years ago

      The headliner itself isn't wet.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Leslie ,

      It could be the sunroof, but it could also be your windshield. The best way to figure it out would be to close the sunroof, place a hose on the roof of your car in the area you think it coming in, and turn the hose on with a slow flow of water (no sprayer). Pull down the headliner alittle to find the point of entry, it will either be a disconnected hose at the sunroof drain in the corner of the sunroof tray, or the seal around the windshield. Once you find the point of entry, you would either reinstall the drain or have the windshield removed and replaced. Let me know if you have any other questions Leslie .

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      VW Leslie 3 years ago

      Hi eddie,

      I am so happy to find your webpage.

      I have a 2005 VW jetta with a sunroof.

      Everytime it rains, I get in my car after and the driverside floorwell is completely wet and there is moisture build up in my car.

      The windows are fogged up from the moisture, as well...

      Parts of my headliner are starting to fall apart now too...

      I haven't even had the car a year.

      My mechanic sucked the leaves out the raintray area one time and it seemed to help. But, the problem keeps coming back..........

      Every time, I get in the car after a rainstorm, I see what looks like a water trail coming out by the hood release lever.

      There is water always under the car also.....

      I am scared of getting mold or a rusty floor in my car.....

      what should I do?

      I know, I am going to end up getting the headliner replaced.....

      do you think its the sunroof drains or something else?

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Sure HK2 , any time :)

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      hk2 3 years ago

      That is reassuring. I've printed out your five steps too in case I find someone who can help me with that. You are much appreciated!

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2, the rep gave you some good advice, keep an ear on the noises and have it checked one more time before the warranty runs out. Some Honda engines have a very similar noise, but never have a problem. Keep me posted HK2, thanks.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      This is helpful to know (and thank you for typing all this out) but, wow, I wouldn't feel confident to try something like this! I was at the dealer's today and they told me they could not duplicate the issue and seemed not to believe that it was really the wrist pin. They seemed willing to repair it if they could hear it / diagnose it but insisted they couldn't hear it. They didn't try any of the above, though. Said they listened to the motor with a stethoscope-like instrument and still couldn't hear it. Put the car on the rack and didn't see any leaks. Went on a test drive (without me) and couldn't duplicate anything they considered "abnormal." They said they don't think it is anything serious, which is the opposite of what the tech at the oil shop indicated--and he seemed very knowledgeable and honest. There wouldn't have been any reason for him to mislead me, as his shop was not equipped to do an engine rebuild. Not sure what to think! Rep at dealer said even if the tech at the oil shop DID hear the wrist pin, it is likely not something to be concerned about and probably wasn't really rotating. They thought he must have turned on the car after the oil was drained and BEFORE replacing it, but that isn't what happened. He and another tech listened under the hood AFTER the oil change was complete. Do you have a gut instinct about it? Maybe I have just been overly concerned because of all the other things that transpired with the car recently. The dealer rep basically advised just keeping an eye on it. Said they could check it again before the powertrain warranty runs out. Said they just don't run into a lot of problems with Ravs and most people love them. Said sometimes they make noises but they keep running and will last much longer than I would imagine.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2,

      No, it's not that difficult to diagnose this problem, you just haven't found the right mechanic, lol. Sorry to laugh, it just seems like every tech you talk to has no ambition to help. There are a few good ones out here, they're just hard to find.

      If it were a wrist pin or crank bearing making the noise, you can easily figure which cylinder it is, and figure if it is even your problem. What you can do is remove the spark plug wire , one at a time, from each spark plug, while the engine is running. If your noise is a wrist pin or crank bearing, the noise will change once you remove the plug wire from the bad cylinder because there is no force being put on the top of that piston when there is no spark. So to clear up any confusion, this is how you do it step by step.

      1. Start the engine and let it warm up until you hear the noise.

      2. Remove the plug wire from cylinder one, and notice if the noise disappears. Re install the plug wire onto the plug.

      3. Move to the next cylinder and do the same, use insulated pliers to prevent shock because the spark will jump from the wire to ground, so if you're ground, you'll get a huge shock that will send your arm flying, lol.

      4. Do this procedure to all cylinders because you could have more than one cylinder with a problem.

      5. Write down your findings.

      Let me know if you're totally confused now or if you understand, lol. It's not rocket science, but these mechanics you're finding sure do make it sound like it is.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Wow, yes... Is it usually this difficult to diagnose sounds in the shop? I keep asking if they can do a diagnostic test but am told "Not really...unless the Check Engine light comes on"...which it hasn't. The last tech said that what he was hearing could be "major" and that I should get it into the dealer again soon. He referred to the crank and the wrist pin and something that was supposed to be rocking back and forth but was rotating instead? (Not certain I have the terminology correct.) Thanks again, Eddie, for all the help.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      It must be driving you crazy no one can figure this out. If it were a wrist, it would be pretty easy to diagnose. The noise you're describing sounds like it coming from the valvetrain, not one cylinder. Keep me posted on the next diagnosis HK2, thanks.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      I don't think so--re both smoke and loudness. The sound is most noticeable while idling. Seat and steering wheel vibrates some too.

      Most who have looked at it think it is "normal" at first but as they listen longer or more closely they agree that something seems "off." I know for certain the engine sounds quite different than it used to. A tech at another shop yesterday referred to it as engine knock...and said what he was hearing was related to the wrist pin. The oil on the dipstick was down to 1/2 after about 2,000 miles. I feel relieved that we're getting closer to a diagnosis...

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2, Welcome back :)

      If you had an exhaust leak, you would definitely smell exhaust fumes when the engine is running and your nose is under the hood, do you smell exhaust fumes with the hood open and the engine running? Also a cracked manifold would be much louder on acceleration, is it louder?

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi, Eddie, Brief update...

      I checked with a Toyota tech about the possibility of checking / adjusting ignition timing and he said that wouldn't be possible or apply to a Rav. Also, I filled the tank with premium high octane (also at his suggestion) and drove on the freeway for a half hour or so (high speed) to see if it would help by burning off carbon buildup...and there hasn't been any perceptible difference. When you open the hood and run the engine, it sounds almost like a "clackety" sound. Someone who listened to it today thought it could possibly be related to some sort of exhaust leak.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Ang,

      Your AC drain may be clogged, if it's 106 deg there, you must be using your air conditioner. I know the drain is typically on the passenger side, but water can travel through tubes in the dash. I would have the AC drain checked first, maybe try blowing compressed air up from the bottom, it a quick check but not a permanent fix. Let me know if this helps Ang, thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2,

      No problem, I'm hear to help, whatever the question :) Mechanical timing and ignition timing are very different. The mechanical timing, times the cam and crank so they can move without interference. Ignition timing times the ignition spark, if the coil closes at the wrong time, it can cause a ping, and we're talking about a fraction of a second. The timing chain may not be adjustable, but sometimes you can adjust the ignition timing with a scan tool or some type of adjustment on the engine, I'm not sure if that's possible on the Rav, but it's worth looking into. Let me know what you find out HK2, thanks.

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      ang 3 years ago

      Hey!

      I have a 03 mitz galant and i noticed past month or 2 drivers side floor soaking wet i put floor mats in thinking i just got the floor wet but its still wet and now i noticed the back passenger floor wet to now and my car smells and there is mildew now... i know my son spelt soda a few days ago but usually that stuff dries i live where the weather is 106 degrees right now.. but this is not drying is it something more?

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      hk2 3 years ago

      You are so right--feel sort of as though going in circles! The Rav has a timing chain rather than belt, so I don't think it can be adjusted.

      I did try 1/2 tank of Plus fuel and it may have helped slightly but still noticing the pinging, etc. May need to try a whole tank. The valves just sound "off" somehow.

      Thanks for the clues. I agree with you--that the driver shouldn't have to "compensate" for the car!

      Re the exhaust sound issue... Last mechanic said it definitely was not related to the exhaust but to the engine... Still a bit of a mystery...

      He thinks both the valve sound and the exhaust type sound are related to doing mostly local "gentle" driving.

      Thanks again, Eddie. Sorry my questions have detoured quite a bit from the original thread subject.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hey HK2, welcome back :) I see you have been very busy but have gotten know where. The pinging noise is usually cause by detonation, sometimes carbon buildup on the valves can cause it, but usually when you change to a higher octane fuel, the noise will disappear.

      One other simple thing to have checked is the engine timing, if the timing is not within spec, that also could cause pinging. The exhaust noise you'll have to live with until you can afford to have the pipe replaced. If you have an expert exhaust shop in town, the price to fix it would probably be pretty cheap because that's all they do.

      The only thing driving your car like a maniac would do is remove some of the carbon on the valves (maybe!), to be honest, mechanics should not be telling their customers to drive their car harder, there is a problem with the car, not the driver :) Try using a half tank of high octane fuel, or go buy a can of octane booster at the local autoparts store, just as a test and let me know if it improves, and have your timing checked, I'm not sure if it can be adjusted, but it's worth knowing if it's out of spec. Thanks HK2.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi, Eddie, I'm back again with sort of an update and followup.

      I took the Rav to two different mechanics / repair shops to try to diagnose two things: The noisy valve train and the internal exhaust type sound.

      First shop said the pinging valve train was probably normal, as different cars sound different and that since my mileage is at 24,000 this is when the car is "broken in" and whatever it sounds like now will probably be how it will continue to sound for the life of the car! Didn't like that answer... (Sound / vibration just doesn't feel right, while idling at lights, etc. Started getting noisier, sounding strange sometime in June / July.) The mechanic thought the muffler / exhaust type sound that kicks in about 1800 RPMs was the heat shield, which I disagreed with, but he insisted and put the car on the rack and "adjusted" it some, which made no difference whatsoever in the sounds I've been hearing. Next shop said that the pinging noisy valve train and the gutteral exhaust type sound are actually connected and both related to the engine. (It does seem sometimes as though the exhaust-type sound is coming from the engine, though you hear it more as if it is originating from the mid rear.) He suggested 3 things: 1) To drive the car more roughly for a while to "reset the car's computer", 2) To use synthetic oil rather than regular or synthetic blend--said to use 020 instead of the recommended 5W20 oil--i.e., use thinner oil, 3) Experiment with using high octane gas. When I said this could get expensive (I usually use the regular unleaded, Shell brand), he said to try filling the tank when 1/2 empty, using the next level up (Plus). So far, I haven't noticed a difference. My last oil change was in early June, regular oil....but I had been using synthetic blend earlier. The pinging, noisier valve train did seem to start sometime after the oil change, but also not long after the water pump was replaced.... Not sure if there is a connection to either?

      Another mechanic said that the pinging valve train sound would go away if I took a road trip....but I recently took a 4-hour trip, and it did not seem to dissipate. During that trip (while travelling about 60- 70 mph on highways, I did not hear the gutteral exhaust type sound, but as soon as I was back in the city, doing stop-and-go driving, it returned. I hear that same exact sound all the time from old vans and trucks or older cars...but don't know what it is exactly....)

      Just thought I'd run it by you to see if any more clues come to mind!

      Hope you had a nice Labor Day weekend!

      (ALso tried driving the car "more roughly"...which in a strange way may have helped at first.... It did seem to lessen the frequency of the gutteral sounds BUT when I just tried it again today, thinking maybe I could get all the sounds to disappear, today it seemed to make the gutteral sounds return!)

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Ivan,

      The most common place for water to leak in on the rear of the vehicle is around the tail lights, especially if there has been some kind of rear end accident.

      With the car all closed up, run water from the hose over each tail light (gently with no sprayer)for about 5 minutes, then take a flashlight and look closely around the tail lights on the inside of the vehicle, you may need to remove a panel of trim to do the visual inspection.

      If the tail lights are the cause, remove each one and use some silicone sealer around the entire gasket, clean the surface and re-install.

      Let me know if this helps Ivan, and let me know if the tail lights are the problem, thanks.

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      Ivan Dobrev 3 years ago

      Hi!

      I have Nissan Quest 2005.

      Recently I see water in the pit where the rear seat stays in folding position.Can you help me with some advise ?

      Thank you !

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Rebecca,

      Does the vehicle have a roof rack, antenna, or any other accessory mounted to the roof? If so, it may not be the sunroof that's leaking. I can't believe Jeep has looked at it 3 times and can't figure it out, that's plain lazy. Let me know about the roof accessories, thanks Rebecca :)

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      Rebecca 3 years ago

      Wondering if you have any ideas that might help with finding a leak in the sunroof (I think?) of my 2009 Jeep Liberty. I've had the drains replaced, the "water specialist" has poured water all over the roof from every conceivable angle and can't seem to find anything, but after a day of steady rain, the headliner on the driver's side of my car will be soaked. I've had it in to Jeep 3 times, and I'm at my wit's end. I've never been in an accident with the car, never had the windshield replaced and everything was fine for 50K miles, now the leak..and it's bad. First subtle watermarks, then dripping from the rocker-panel switch on the ceiling, drains replaced, still leaks. Any ideas??

      Thank you for any suggestions you might have.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi... Wow. Interesting and illumining story.

      I think the Rav is losing at least a 1/2 quart every 2,000 miles or so. Mechanics have found no leaks. Haven't seen blue smoke but haven't had anyone outside to observe.

      (Oil level is sometimes at the low line at 6 months.) I had always thought too that it really should not be losing any oil.

      This might sound strange, but I tried synthetic blend to see if it would help the car ride more smoothly. It has always felt a little jerky at times (when the automatic transmission shifts?). Maybe I was just imagining (or hoping!) it helped, but it did seem to help somewhat...

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2,

      The manufacturer will tell you 1 quart every 1000 miles, (I don't believe that for a second) In my opinion 0 to 1/2 a quart every 5000. If your engine doesn't have any leaks, it shouldn't lose any oil at all in my opinion, if it were burning it, you would normally see blue smoke coming out the tail pipe. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :)

      Here is another educated opinion on my behalf, haha. There isn't any need to use synthetic oil under normal driving conditions, you're throwing your money away. As long as you do your oil changes at the correct intervals, you car will go 300K plus miles, no problem! Especially Honda's and Toyota's

      I worked on a customers car during his 300k mile ownership, he use our bulk Pennzoil for the life of the vehicle, he changed his oil every 3500 miles, the engine was as clean on the inside the day he traded it in, as it was the the day he bought it. One of our tech's bought it and drove it another 5 years and put over 400k miles on it, and only used regular oil. The moral of the story is, If you want to used synthetic oil, it wont help or hurt your engine, but it will suck the money right out of your wallet, and in my opinion, there's really no need for synthetic oil unless you drive extreme mileage in a short amount of time with 10k intervals between oil changes. The money I just saved you is the money you can use towards your new car payment :) In all honesty, I don't buy into all the hype about synthetic oil, I really feel there is no advantage under normal conditions, and Roger, my customer, was proof.

      Hope this helps HK2, let me know your thoughts, take care for now, and Happy 4th :)

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Eddie... Just to clarify re your comments on the oil level earlier. I meant to include that I usually drive only 2,000 - 3,000 miles between oil changes, sometimes less. Usually use SYNTHETIC BLEND. So what would be the normal amount of oil consumption? I had thought I could perhaps stretch out my oil changes, especially since using synthetic blend, but when I check the level at 6 months, it looks much lower than in cars I've had previously. It always surprises me!

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hi again... Pretty sure it's not the heat shield, since the mechanic pounded the pipes while the car was on the rack and pretty much ruled that out.

      No blockage at this point, but I hope that sound doesn't indicate one could develop!

      I checked out your other site and loved it. Enjoyed reading your story too. Your passion, integrity, and love for helping others is unusual. So glad I came across you and will definitely recommend you to others!

      You're the greatest.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      If you have the rattle checked out HK2, it may be something as simple as a loose heat shield, but because you've been hearing it since new, I'm thinking it more of an internal problem. If it is an internal exhaust rattle, the only way to fix it is to replace the part and it could get expensive, so unless it's causing a blockage in the exhaust, it's not doing any harm, it's only bugging the crap out of you, lol.

      Hey! And no need to stop asking questions, that's why I'm here :) It's a little tough trying to figure out some problems by description only, but I do my best :) I have anther website, simple-car-answers .com, at that site you can comment and add pictures, write reviews on garages or dealerships you have use for service or sales, basically build your own webpage, so when you have a minute, have a look, and if you know of anyone who could use the information, send them over :) I don't have much input from visitors yet because it so new, but I'm hoping it will catch on and have a snowball effect. Let me know what you think HK2, your feedback is priceless, thank you :)

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Thanks, again. I know---more research. Am not really feeling geared up for a "new car search" right now but don't want to end up with more problems down the road. Not sure what to do. I might need to give it all a rest for a while... (I say that till I get in the car and start feeling concerned again!)

      From your comments, though, I'm sensing it's probably okay to let the "exhaust rattle" go?--that it probably isn't harmful, just disconcerting to listen to? Or is it something that eventually will need repair?

      (That's it for a while... I promise!)

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2,

      My recommendation is to test drive each one, do a little research on consumer reports about maintenance and repair histories, and go from there. The test drive will be the first step, if your not comfortable driving the vehicle, there is no sense in buying it :) Beyond that, make sure the vehicle has a good overall consumer rating. Let me know what you ultimately do HK2.

      Oh and the pipe would have been about $500, we can live with the noise for now :)

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      hk2 3 years ago

      I think my "rattle" usually occurs at about 1800 RPM too, although sometimes a little higher...and last night, once or twice on deceleration too. Sounds like, if you weren't trading in the Lexus, you would have it repaired and it might be expensive? Ugh...

      I've been thinking a fresh start sounds good too.

      It is helpful to know you prefer Honda. I'm not partial to Toyota--and especially not now! At the time I bought the Rav, I initially leaned toward the Honda CRV or Hyundai Tucson but eventually went with the Rav, partially because of logistics. I think I would have preferred the slightly smaller size of the others. The Rav has felt a little large for me--another reason I may not mind trading it in, although value wise I'm not certain that would be a good idea. I would need to trade down, probably to a subcompact. I test drove a Nissan Versa Note and Honda Fit and was a little disappointed in both. I usually prefer hatchbacks, but may go ahead and test drive the Accord or Civic, as you suggested. If I do go the subcompact route, do you have a recommendation? I was going to check out a Ford Fiesta and Kia Rio too...and possibly a Hyundai Accent or Chevy Sonic. Any thoughts?

      The dash area was rattling away last night and nothing seemed to help it... I know Toyota has an anti-rattle kit for the dash but not sure I want to go through the rattle finding process with them again, or the expense!

      (Will try to make these my last questions for a while!)

      Your feedback has really helped!

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      My wife has a Lexus 350RX, and it has a similar rattle at 1800 RPM's. It's an internal rattle and I'm not willing to spend the cash on a new pipe because we're trading it it soon. The rattle is always at 1800 RPM's while accelerating, not too much on deceleration.

      Noises are tough to find, and sometimes we can work for days trying to figure them out, so just keep placing the cardboard in different areas.

      If you have a breakdown of what the VIN numbers and letters mean, you should be able to figure out what day it was made on, but I wouldn't worry too much, lol, knowing that information may drive you crazy :)

      If you can afford to trad it in, it may be a good option for you. I don't usually recommend trading cars because of problems, but with your car and the amount of problems, it may be nice to have a fresh start with no issues. Try test driving an Accord or Civic, it sounds to me like you are loyal to Toyota, but they haven't been treating you right, maybe it time to switch. I'm partial to Honda's as you may well know, but in the end, the choice is up to you.

      Let me know what happens one way or the other HK2, and don't hesitate to ask more questions. Take care for now :)

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Wish your shop was nearby! "An internal exhaust rattle" sounds like it might be right...but am wondering if that comes under the category of "just annoying" or if it should be looked into? I noticed it again tonight (without the air conditioning on). I do a lot of stop and go driving...and it seems to manifest when slowly hitting the gas pedal after slowing down or right after being stopped and accelerating again. It's intermittent and short. Not sure if "rattle" best describes it but not sure what else to call it. It does sound slightly muffled. (At one of the garages, a mechanic pounded the exhaust area and shields with his hand while the car was on the rack and did not find anything loose or rattling externally.) The Tercell seemed to have that same sound for years but kept running... Am wondering why a brand new car would have the same! Should I not be too concerned about it? I wish I had pursued it more fully while still under warranty. It just seemed like there were so many other issues...and it was difficult to replicate while driving with the mechanic, as initially it didn't happen too often.

      Re the instrument cluster rattle.... I haven't been able to figure out where to put the cardboard yet but will keep experimenting. Sometimes pulling up or pushing on the steering wheel slightly stops it for a moment, but not always!

      I just ran across your post recommending not buying cars made on certain days (after holidays and on Fridays, etc.). Is there a way to find out the exact manufacture date? Am almost afraid to look, though!

      Am still wondering (before investing in new tires) if I should go the trade-in route, instead...

      Thanks, Eddie, for helping so many with all your insights and expertise.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2,

      The oil level should be filled the top mark mark, it would not cause damage being a 1/2 quart over full, if it were a quart or 2 over full, then you would cause some problems like the engine smoking, but I don't think you have that problem. The bottom line is, the oil level should be checked every time you add oil, but sometimes mechanics guess at it, even I am guilty of it on a busy day.

      The rattle in the rear could be an internal exhaust rattle (something broke loose inside the exhaust system) but without hearing it, it's hard to say.

      The rattle near the instrument cluster could be a clearance problem. I remember some Honda's had a similar noise, we needed to remove the instrument cluster and shave a bit of plastic from the back side. You may want to stick a piece of thin cardboard between the plastic pieces where you hear the noise just to see if the noise completely goes away. Hope these tip help HK2, let me know how you make out, and like I said, if you have more questions, you know where to find me :)

      You are very welcome!

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Wow, yes...I didn't expect to hear back so soon, but that is great! Definitely helpful. Thanks so much!

      Believe it or not, I do have a few other concerns but thought that last post was getting far too long.

      So... When you have a few more moments: :)

      One question in relation to oil level... The Rav manual stresses that it is important not to fill the oil above the high mark on the dipstick, but the guys at the oil-change shop said it really doesn't matter so much if the oil level on the dipstick is 1/2 inch or an inch above the high mark. Is that true? And if the puddle I saw on the garage floor WAS residual from when the mechanic drained some out, does that mean it wasn't drained properly? Could it really leak out like that a week later? (Trying not to be paranoid here but it has all felt a little maddening.)

      Ever since I've had the car (when brand new) I've heard an occasional rattle under the rear back. Sounds like some sort of engine noise...almost a metallic trill...hard to describe...but it seems to happen usually when the air conditioner is on (or shortly afterward) and usually when accelerating shortly after being stopped at a light. It only lasts a few seconds. I used to hear the EXACT same noise on my old Toyota Tercell (one of the reasons I traded it in)...so was surprised when I heard it again on a brand new car. Thought maybe it was something common to Toyotas? Do you know what it might be? I seem to be hearing it more frequently lately. When I originally mentioned it to the service reps, they brushed it off. But at the time, they were also trying to locate and repair another mysterious rattle, which turned out to be the back seat carriage, which had to be replaced! This is beginning to sound ridiculous, I know...

      Also dealing with another rattle issue in the dash. Sounds like it is coming from the speedometer. (Noticed this intermittently too when the car was new but it has returned recently...and seems to be continual when driving on freeways, starting at about 50mph or above--sometimes on regular roads at lesser speeds, especially when going slightly downhill.) Sounds plastic...almost like static sometimes but doesn't go away if I apply pressure to the speedometer area. Any clues would be much appreciated!

      Again, Eddie, thanks so much.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi HK2,

      WOW! You have some stuff going on lol. The coolant seeping from the water pump is very common, sometimes it can last for years leaking like that, but it peace of mind knowing it's fixed.

      The AC or evaporator drain does get clogged from debris when the HVAC system draws in fresh air ( like leaves, dust, dirt, pollen, bugs, etc...) If a spiders web clogged it, I would hate to see the size of that spider :) but anyway, it can be cleared by blowing compressed air up through the tube as you saw.

      If your not burning 1 quart of oil between oil changes, I wouldn't be too concerned. If the rings were bad, you would see blue smoke coming from the tail pipe, especially on acceleration. The spot of oil may have been the residual oil on the pan or sub frame when the mechanic drained it, but keep an eye on the garage floor.

      The coolant overflow tank is used for expansion, so when the engine gets hot, the coolant overflows into the the tank, then once the engine cools off, it will be drawn back into the engine. Don't worry about the level too much, unless there is no coolant in the overflow tank, then start investigating :)

      I hope this helps, and let me know if you have more concerns. This response was a bit quicker then the last one, ya think? lol, Take care for now HK2.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Eddie, thank you...

      You are astute! Part of the issue did turn out to be the cowl. When I took the Rav to the glass installer, they carefully checked the windshield and said it had been beautifully installed--did not find any gaps, etc. What they did find was a deteriorated cowl, with both ends loose and slightly flapping, causing the rattles I was hearing as well as allowing water in. (Later I researched this and found that certain Rav4s have had this issue due to a manufacturer defect in the cowl.) But replacing the cowl did not completely resolve the problem. Water was still coming in when the air conditioner was on, so I took it to a garage to have the air conditioning drain unclogged. When the mechanic cleared the drain, a flood of water poured out, which he guessed was due to spiders having built webs in the drain / vent. He said to keep an eye on the passenger's side floorboards to see if more water comes in in the future, which might indicate more serious problems. I had also been noticing the coolant levels seeming low but when I spoke to Toyota and others about it, they said all was well and normal and "nothing to worry about." There was also a large spot under the car on two occasions of what seemed to be antifreeze or possibly transmission fluid. Toyota and another garage checked under the car (on the rack) and said it was extremely clean and dry--absolutely no leaks. But it still just didn't feel right to me, so one auto repair shop did a pressure test and found that the water pump was broken and had a leak! They showed me the hole and gob of pink antifreeze and said it had probably been slowly leaking (internally) for over a year. (Again, when I researched this afterward, I found that other Rav4 owners have had this issue too.) They replaced the water pump but the coolant level went down again further than before, which evidently was due to an air bubble. They remedied that and added more coolant, and it seems okay now, although the level goes down after sitting all night (when cool) and up after being driven--which I thought was the reverse of what it was supposed to do? The mechanic, who seems knowledgeable, assures me it is fine as long as it is going up and down and does not go below the LOW line. I hope you agree! He said the heater core was fine and he thinks the car is in great shape overall. But a few days ago I noticed (after parking in a garage) another fresh puddle of some sort (about 6" x 9") under the front center (slightly to the passenger side). It was slick (oily), yellowish gold with brown and black mixed in and smelled like fuel...but was probably oil? Have just seen it that one time. Am wondering if it could be in any way related to the oil consumption test Toyota is doing on it? They drained out some oil last week (dipstick had showed it had been overfilled on recent oil change). They recommended the oil consumption test because I had noticed the oil level on dipstick has usually seemed too low when it is time for an oil change. (Again, after research, I found there has been an issue with certain Rav4s burning oil.) This all just seems too much! Any insights? (The oil on the dipstick looks clear / gold.) People think the car looks new--inside and out, and underneath! The mechanic who replaced the water pump said he wouldn't worry about the oil consumption because the car is "very sound" and is not driven much or at high speeds so probably won't come to the point of really being an issue, but I don't like having to worry about the oil level. If Toyota finds a problem on the oil consumption test, it would require taking the engine apart (before the powertrain warranty expires) to repair a piston ring?... which I don't like the sound of either. Was hoping things were finally resolved... And that perhaps it was just a matter of "getting the kinks out"...but I'm hoping these issues aren't signs of other underlying things that will also need addressing or expense in the future.... The mechanics who have seen the car don't think I should worry about trading it in but keep it because it is a great car, "in great shape!" Would be grateful to know what you think... (I've been holding off on the tires for now, but have been told that balancing or rotating wouldn't help in this case, which seems to be true.) Quite an odyssey!

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Carl,

      It sounds to me like your sunroof drains are clogged and the sunroof tray is filling up with water. I would have them cleaned with compressed air. I'm not sure about the hole in the floor, is there any way you send me a picture so I know what it looks like and where it's located? I have a website you can send pictures too, so let me know, thanks Carl.

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      Eddie Carrara 3 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hello HK2, I very sorry for not responding sooner, I never saw your comment :( I have dealt with windshield installers who replace them in record time, and I know the outcome, leaks! If it guaranteed for life, I would definitely have them re install it, and the plastic rattle noise could be caused by the windshield cowl not being secured, but I'm not positive.

      That's where I would start with the water leak, most likely the windshield sealer was not installed evenly, therefor leaving gaps. Do you hear any abnormal wind noise or whistle on the highway? That would be a sure sign of a leak.

      I would get a second opinion on the tires, you may just need a tire balance and a rotate, but get a second opinion on it before you spend the money. Let me know if you have more questions HK2 and let me know what happens. I usually respond in less than 24 hours, I just didn't see your post, sorry.

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      Carl 3 years ago

      I have a toyota sienna, and when I lift the carpet, I notice a hole there. do you know what that hole is meant for? it looks like its been there for a while, and when I push the mat as far down as I can, there is water. Not to mention I have had the carpet on drivers side wet and I found the "where you put your sunglasses compartment" leaking when it rains. and I have a sunroof for that matter.

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      hk2 3 years ago

      Hello, Eddie,

      I just noticed today that my 2008 Rav4 has water leaking, especially on the passenger side, from the inner corner, under the glove box. I pulled back the mat, and it was soaking wet underneath... Carpets are wet too. I put my hand up under the plastic casing and could feel that the inner padding and plastic was wet too. (The plastic casing seemed to be hanging a little loose?) Some water also is leaking into the driver's side but not as much. At first I thought it might be connected to the air conditioning or heater core...because recently there has been a white film on the interior of my windshield that seems to build up after using the air conditioner or possibly heater? It is very difficult to get off ... Have not been able to get it off completely with vinegar and water, etc. It leaves streaks that you can see in the sunlight. Some websites indicate this may be due to a broken heater core? Have also had a recent plastic sounding rattle coming from under the dash or hood or possibly door. This started not long after recall work at Toyota on the driver's door and rear suspension. I've taken very careful care of the car, and it has only 23,000 miles. I also noticed increased vibration and rough ride...and Toyota is saying this is due to the tires dryrotting and needing to be replaced. Am feeling a little dismayed by all this... I just went out to check the leak again (it has been raining most the day) and could see more water dripping in... so I am wondering if the source of the leak is likely the windshield? I did have the windshield replaced last October (about 7 months ago)...and was concerned at the time because the installer did it in 15 minutes. When I expressed concern, they insisted all was fine and properly installed. Is it possible that the plastic rattle sound I've been hearing could be a disconnected hose, possibly related to the leaking? Not sure where to start... Do you think the leak is most likely the windshield? Should I have it reinstalled? Take it to a mechanic to check out first? Hope to avoid too much expense. The windshield installation is supposed to be guaranteed for life. Any insights would be much appreciated. Your article was so helpful...

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Sj,

      Using the compressed air at a gas station won't put pressure in the tube to force out the debris, you need to use an air nozzle with a rubber tip, most mechanics have this air nozzle. The best way to see if the drain is clear is to use a small container of water like a soda bottle a pour it in that corner of the sunroof tray. Try to park your car on an decline (front of car down) and see if the water drains out, it should drain near the front wheel. Let me know if this helps, and let me know what you find Sj, thanks.

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      Sj 4 years ago

      I have a 2004 Nissan sentra with sun roof and a year ago it started leaking from the front right (passenger side) when there is heavy rain. I can see water on the above the passenger side door on the front and also on the carpet. I took it to a body shop once and they blew air into the sun roof drain and asked me to clean the car well and said that should do the trick (they didn't charge me anything). But it doesn't seem to fix the issue and recently the leaking got worse.

      I tried to blow air into the drain whole using the air compressor at the gas station it didn't seem to help.

      I'm not sure if the leaking is because of a clogged drain pipe on the front right side or something else. Sun roof is the factory install and car never had any body work done on it, and the issue only started a year ago.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Villa,

      A leaking glass would leak into the trunk, not into the speakers! That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard, and it's quite insulting to say the least, I wouldn't trust them either! First you need to find the point of entry, simply run a garden hose over the top of the back glass (let the water flow gently, do not use high pressure) put the back seat down, remove the trunk carpet, and have someone watch for the leak with a flashlight. If the back glass is leaking, you should see water pooling up on the trunk floor, then just follow the stream.

      Let me know what you find Villa, and if you have more questions, you know where to fine me :)

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      Villa2343 4 years ago

      I am hoping someone can help me - About a year ago (tomrrow is one year) the rear window of our 2010 Toyota Corolla was installed due to the radio shorting out when we turned on the rear defrost. Anyway, we found water in the trunk we thought at first it was from when you open the trunk up and water dripping in but then we realized it's a definite leak. We took the car to the dealership who had the company who installed the windshield come back and they said it was installed properly and if it wasn't there would be water in the speakers - for some reason I just don't trust people and I hate to let this go any longer -any suggestions?

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Lana,

      There are 4 drains in the sunroof tray, one in each corner, you could try to clear the two front drains using a pen or wire coat hanger, the best way to clear them is to use compressed air with a nozzle. If you want to dry your carpet, remove all floor mats, and use a wet vac, like at the car wash or a home wet vac (shop vac) suck up as much water as possible, and then let your car idle with the heat on high (floor) and leave your windows open about an inch to let the moisture out.

      Let me know if this helps, and let me know how you make out at the dealership, thanks :)

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      Lana 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I think my sunroof is leaking. I have water pooling on my driver side floor and I hear water sloshing around in the roof of my car. I have an appointment to get the car but it is not until tomorrow. First what will they do to get the water out of my roof and secondly is there anything I can do in the meantime so that I do not get mold in the floor of my car.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Rosie,

      Great pictures, and explanations but the water leak is above this box, and unless your remove the HVAC box you'll never see the point of entry. If I were to guess (which I am, lol :) I would say it's probably a body seam or a screw in the cowl area that has lost it's sealing gasket.

      If you don't plan on having it fixed, the local auto parts stores have winter rubber mats that are like a tray, and they trap water. It may look a little better than the plastic bag and it may trap more water in heavy rains. It's a temporary fix for a permanent problem.

      Let me know if I can help in any other way Rosie, or if you have more question. If you would like to share this page on facebook, I wouldn't mind a bit, in fact, I would appreciate it very much :) Thanks Rosie, take care for now.

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      Rosie 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      After doing the dizzy crawl under the dash again, I discovered there are more openings. I took two photos with my cell phone. I'm going to leave things alone and just keep the trash bag on the floorboard. The putty seemed like a great idea until I discovered the additional openings. If nothing else, I sure have learned a lot about how my car is made under the dash!

      Here are the pics if you are interested. A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks again and take care.

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/17873133@N05/

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Kriz,

      Are you sure that gasket isn't sold separate, it's not even part of the glass assembly. I just Googled Honda Odyssey rear window gasket and one came up on eBay for $40, I would search the Internet, you can find one. Using some kind of sealer would be a mess, if you don't have any luck, come back here and let me know, I can figure something out :)

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      Kriz 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I Have a 2000 honda odyssey and I noticed water forming at at the rubber sealant in the third row rear side window. Its too expensive to replace the weather stripping as its not sold separately and comes with the glass. Whopping $600.00, is there any sealant in the market that will help in sealing the window. I still want to be able to open it but just need something to stop the water from pouring inside during heavy downfall.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Rosie,

      If you can see or feel where the water is coming in, I recommend just plugging the hole with some automotive putty or plumbers putty. Knowing the point of entry is half the battle, so go to your local hardware store and buy some plumbers putty and plug the hole, then wait for the rain :) I would still use the plastic bag , just in case it leaks, but I think you nailed it (we're all a little dizzy :) Let me know if you attempt plugging the hole yourself, I would love to hear how it went. Good job Rosie, not many people take the initiative and end up ruining their car (smell, rust). Let me know what happens :)

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      Rosie 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie - Thanks for your answer. I've been busy since asking my question 3 weeks ago. I was told yesterday by a shop that it would cost hundreds of dollars to just diagnose. They would need my car for an entire day. They would have to remove my dash and more. My leak is not too bad in that it is a cup of water at the worst and that's when it rains very hard. I have a plastic cover that catches all the water. My carpet is staying dry. I don't have any humidity from this leak thus far. So, with that typed, I am considering either leaving my plastic bag setup for now and just accepting the leak for what it is. Would this leak cause any other problems though in the future? I know that's a tough question. The leak is way underneath the dash on the passenger's side. It is a slow drip, drip. As long as it is only hitting plastic, I can only guess it is okay. I'm not certain though if the water is running across any wires. If it did run across wires, is there a consequence to that? I know that my car's computer is not located near the passenger side dash. The drip comes out of a small hole that's near a wire configuration under the dash. But, the wire is not ever wet. I can feel up into the hole and sometimes get a small drip of water on my finger when it is raining. I have to crawl so far underneath the dash that when I get back up into the seat, I'm dizzy (smiles). I'm considering also getting rid of the car. It is 14 years old. It might be time for an upgrade to my ride. Thanks again. Take care.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Lee,

      If the ding is not too bad, you could try adjusting the boot latch to pull the lid a bit tighter. If that doesn't work, try your local auto parts store or home improvement store, they sell a foam tape that would take up the gap and could work temporarily. Let me know if that helps Lee :)

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      Lee 4 years ago

      Hi I have water in the back of the car as the boot has I ding on the corner meaning its not sealing properly. Any extra seals I can get to stick to the Edge of the boot lid to make it seal where it's falling short?

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Rosie,

      That is a tough one to find, I have seen screws that hold up the blower motor assembly leak because the screw goes through the cowl, and I have seen evaporators leak water through the seam of the box. The best advice I can give you on this problem is, you need to see exactly where the water is entering the vehicle. Sometimes that means you need to remove the HVAC box completely, I know it a big job but if it's leaking on the passengers side, removing the blower motor assemble is the only option to find the point of entry. Let me know if you have any other questions Rosie or if I can help in any way. Thanks.

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      Rosie 4 years ago

      I have a mysterious rain water leak in my 1999 Nissan Sentra GXE. I took the car to a glass shop and was told my windshield is fine. I have a factory windshield. I had two guys pour water over the car without success. They took off my cowling. There was not any trash or debris. They checked my hoses and said all looked fine. The drip occurs in the passenger side floorboard. It is a slow drip. It drips at the very far back of the dash. So far, that I about have to crawl underneath the dash. I even took the car to a car wash myself. I sprayed it down good. Not a drip until I was about to leave the car wash then the first drip happened. But, by that time, I had no idea what part of the car was the culprit. Luckily, I guess, the leak has not gotten my carpet wet. It has only gotten the car mat wet. I have though put down a trash bag to eliminate even my car mat from getting wet. This problem is driving me crazy. Pun intended! The leak only happens when it rains. The water is clear and odor free.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Helen,

      The most common place for water to leak into the trunk (boot) is around the tail light lens. You will need to pull down the material around the tail lights inside the boot and water test it from the outside to see exactly where the water is entering. It usually takes a few minutes to start seeping in so soak the areas for a good ten minutes ( don't use a high pressure sprayer). Let me know if I can answer any other questions Helen, take car for now :)

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      Helen 4 years ago

      Hi I'm having a trouble with warter coming in to my rover mg zr the driver side footwell is soaking wet and also the spear wheel in the boot gets a lot of warter in as well only when it rains I think it's driving me mad the car is reversed on to my drive and the footwell get a puddle right corner any advice would be great thanks

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Tony,

      What's happening is the water is pooling up around the tail light gasket and eventually leaking in the vehicle. What you need to do is seal the tail light lens on both sides of the gasket and let it dry. Water test it till the cows come home after sealing it because you don't want to pull this apart again, you may find another leak, but tha's why you're going to water test it after the repair.

      I really appreciate your feedback Tony, it's extremely helpful, let me know how everything comes out when your finished, thanks.

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      Tony 4 years ago

      Thanks Eddie, I've located the leak. I pulled out all the carpet in my car which was a mission but it was worth it. There was about a litre of water in the boot. I just wanted to ask is it possible it is coming from the tail lights ? cause the water is dripping down the metal wall below the tailight but im scared even if i seal this part the water will still come in and somehow come through somewhere else

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      Evie 4 years ago

      Cheers I'll pass this on to the mechanic on friday & let you know how it goes thanks for your help.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Absolutely the antenna can have something to do with it, it's probably screwed to the roof, Plus the antenna wire has to come in so there must be a gasket under the antenna base. I recommend you pull off the antenna and use some silicone sealer underneath it, but do a good Job so it looks good. Let me know how you make out you Evie.

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      Evie 4 years ago

      Thanks eddie when I think about it the front window has been wet but I thought that was condensation caused from the dampness. The antenna is directly above the ceiling light do you think that could have anything to do with it.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Evie,

      I would have to say that the leak is coming from the front windshield or the back glass. Is the roof in good condition? Is there any rust spots on the roof? Most likely the water is coming in from a seal around the windshield or the back glass. If the corner of the roof is wet and you have water in your ceiling light, it has to be coming from up high.

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      Evie 4 years ago

      sorry about the spelling meant a puegot 107. No theres nothing on the roof. Thanks

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Evie,

      Is there anything mounted to your roof, like a roof rack or sunroof? Let me know, thanks.

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      Evie 4 years ago

      hi I have a purgoy107 after noticing a mouldy smell I discovered that at the passenger dide the boot the back seat & the floor was wet & also the corner of the roof, the mechanic sealed the rear lights & i thought it had stopped until last week it has started again so it is booked for friday were he says he will strip it down & hose to find the leak but thinks it could be the tail door is loose. but the other day i noticed leaks from the ceiling light though the ceiling ic dry at the front have you any ideas what could be causing this as it is worrying me.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Laura,

      I would start looking in the trunk, water flows down hill and the passengers floor is down hill, plus there is water present in the trunk. The sunroof drains usually run along the side of the back glass (C pillar) and go through the trunk,. I would check that tube and make sure it's not damaged, and also check the tail light lens gasket between the taillight and body. If all else fails, it's possible the back glass was replaced and not sealed properly. Just run the water over the vehicle slowly (not with a sprayer) let the water flow naturally. Let me know if you find it Laura, thanks :)

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      Laura 4 years ago

      Hi. I hope you have an idea for me too. We have a 2005 Saturn Ion 3. It is a rebuilt title with right side impact damage. No rollover. We purchased from friends who purchased it this way. We actually own another car rebuilt by the same man, awesome work. Anyway, we have never had a problem nor had the previous owner, but of course now that we want to sell it I am finding water in the trunk and ocassionally the front passanger floorboard gets damp. All this even if the car is not being driven. It does have a sunroof, but that seems dry and we don't really use it. Where should I look for the source. Thank you!

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Tony, follow your instinct, if you see rust, follow it, your on the right track. Like I said, water moves around, that's why finding the point of entry is very difficult. Pulling back the carpet and water testing will reveal the path, and lead you to the point of entry, "use the force Luke!" no serious, follow your instinct! It's not rocket science, no tricks here, just hard work and time consuming :)

      I'll be right here if you need me. BTW, if it's raining, you don't need a hose, just peal back the carpet and watch where the water is coming from and follow it.

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      Tony 4 years ago

      Hey Eddie, i haven't had time to pull back the carpet but i tried water testing the front and the sunroof drainers they seem fine! I find this extremely weird though, its been raining a little bit down here and the back and middle section of the car isn't wet but the carpet in front of the front passenger seat is damp but not boot where i assumed the water is coming from! I'm planning to get my friend to put the hose on my car while i sit inside, any other things i should also try ? This is very confusing cause i originally thought the water was coming from the back, as i saw signs of rust but then the front passenger seat got damp and not the rest.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hey Tony,

      It is possible water is entering in multiple areas, but it's not common unless the vehicle has been in a bad accident. Keep in mind that the water moves around under the carpet, so when your slowing down the vehicle, momentum will send the water forward, when you accelerate, the water pushes to the rear of the vehicle.

      Have you checked to see if the sunroof drains are draining properly? The sunroof has 4 drains, one in each corner, and sometimes they get clogged or become disconnected. I would locate the drain tubes on the passengers side of the vehicle and make sure they're intact and not clogged.

      If the drains are OK, pull back the carpet on the passengers side of the vehicle and water test the car by running an open ended garden hose over the roof of the vehicle, sometimes it takes up to 15 - 30 minutes before you see any signs of water leaking into the vehicle, so be patient.

      Let me know what you find, and if you have any other questions, I'll be right here.

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      Tony 4 years ago

      I did what you told me to, and I didn't notice the water coming through. I just washed my car, and the i realized that the carpet in front of the passenger seat is damp! So I'm guessing its from the front to the back ? Is it possible for the water to have more then one point of entry ?

      Thanks for everything eddie

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Yeah Tony,

      What happens is the water will move from front to back as you drive or go up and down hills (gravity) so while you're driving, it's moving under the carpet.

      Let me know if you have any other questions, and let me know what you find, thanks.

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      Tony 4 years ago

      Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciated! Ill go try now !

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Tony,

      Most likely the tail light lens gaskets are leaking when it rains. If you want to water test them, just use a hose and run water over the lenses gently for about 5 minutes, then remove the panel in the trunk that covers the tail lights, see if there is a trail of water coming from the lens gasket area. If there is , you need to remove the tail lights and use some silicone sealer between the lens and the body. Let me know what you find Tony, and if you have any other questions, I'll be right here.

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      Tony 4 years ago

      Hey, Recently I've noticed that directly behind the passenger seat the carpet is damp also touching the rear of the boot carpet on the passenger side it is also moist. Also my windows fog up, how do i locate the leak and how do i fix it, the water is creating a smell. I have a acura RSX type s with a sunroof ! Please help!v

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jiamin,

      I don't know if you're mechanically inclined , but the best way to figure this water leak out is to peal the carpet back on the passengers side, most likely in the area where the passenger would put their feet and where the carpet meets the rear seat, then water test it.

      Dry the vehicle floor as mach as possible first, use towels if you have to. I suspect the front wheel well has a seam that is split open, ( but I'm not sure why there is water in the trunk) as you drive , water is forced up into the front wheel well, if you have the slightest gap in a seam you will get water inside your vehicle. Is the fender well liner installed on the passenger side? If it's missing it will be easier to water test, if it missing, install one after you fix the leak.

      If the water is only coming in while driving, you should start water testing from under the vehicle (both wheel wells and floor) I don't suspect the floor, that would be very unusual. Water will leave a trail, all you have to do is follow it with a flashlight to the point of entry. I highly recommend using 3M brushable seam sealer on any body seam that leaks, it lasts forever. (find it in my article)

      Let me know if you have questions Jiamin, and let me know what you find, thanks :)

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      Jiamin 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I have a Nissan Sentra 1996. I had an accident in October. Minor repair was done to the front bumper and the front light at the passenger side (only cost $750). Then one day in November after a heavy rain, I suddenly noticed the back seat at the passenger side was soaking wet. I wondered if I had left the back window open by accident and did not think much of it. Then when regular rain returned to Seattle in December I started noticing leaks in the trunk as well. I took my car back to the body shop. 4 times. At first they said it was the tail lights and weather strip. After they fixed those, my car continues to leak – dripping wet in the back seat and in the trunk at the passenger side. The Mechanics at the body shop have not been able to identify the point of entry. I have observed that the leak seems to occur when I drive in the rain, not when it is parked. Since my car had never leaked before the accident, naturally I believed this to be accident related. The mechanic said scientifically it was impossible because the damage was at the front and it should not affect the back. Today I googled accident + water leak and found your article which was very helpful. I wonder if you may have tips on my water leak situation as well. Thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Amanda,

      I recommend setting a price on labor that they should stop at and give you a call for further diagnosis, say around $200. They should have a good idea where the water is coming in for $200.

      Water can come in from anywhere, tail light lenses (water will travel from the trunk to the front of the vehicle), windshields, body seams, etc... And just an FYI, you'll probably never remove the musty smell without changing the carpet because it permeates the carpet padding.

      They should be able to guarantee the work, so if the water leak comes back, it should be covered by them, not you. Let me know how you make out Amanda, I'm very curious, thanks!

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      AmandaJW1 4 years ago

      Hi

      I have a 2009 Ford Ka with a soaking wet (mouldy and damp smelling) footwell. I have it booked in for Ford to do a water test this Friday but I am SO worried about how much this will cost - does anyone know what of money we are talking, as they need it for 3 days. I am assured that they don't work on it for 3 days! I do not have a sun roof or air conditioning and all the places which normally get blocked are clear; I really want it solved but worried it will end up costing hundreds (with the possibility that they find something and it wont be that!! - even worse!!) Thanks

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Diane,

      If the water leak occurred after the accident, it was probably caused by the accident, makes sense right? Sometimes a body seam can split open during an accident, if the mechanic or auto body person does not see the split and seal it, you would have a leak, the body would look perfect on the outside, but the underlying damage would cause the problem.

      Up here in NH, we use a company call the water doctor, they specialize in automotive water leaks and the're pretty good, they are reasonable in price, and don't seem to overcharge, maybe their in NJ too.

      To answer you question, the best way to dry the carpet is to vacuum up the water with a shop vac, once most of the water is vacuumed up, let your car idle with the heat on high (floor) and crack the windows about an inch to let the moisture out.

      It's not a warranty issue if the accident caused the leak, but the body shop would be responsible because they didn't catch it. Let me know how you make out with the leak, and if you have any other question, I'll be right here :)

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      Diane 4 years ago

      Hi,

      I too have a 2007 Saturn Ion that I bought in 2011 and am now having some leaking issues. I have no sunroof nor replaced the windshield. I did have a car accident on the left side but the work done was impeccable. I just shelled out over $700 in car repairs due to wet wires and sensors and right after I got it fixed it got wet again thanks to rain. The car will run but I get a trac off message and a decreased engine operation light on (not the check engine light) due to this wet wires. The mechanic told me to take it to a body shop to fix the leak or this will keep happening. He said once the wires dry the message will go away too. How long could that take being I'm in NJ and it's winter?! Could this me a warranty issue?

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Yessirree,

      Yes, the trail light leak could be the cause of the water on the floors. When the trunk has water in it, it will tend to splash around while driving, when you hit the brakes or slow down, the water will rush forward and leak into the passengers compartment behind the back seat, so you'll never see the trail of water.

      I would have the lens sealed and then vacuum up the water with a shop vac, once most of the water is vacuumed up, let your car idle with the heat on high (floor) and crack the windows about an inch to let the moisture out and dry the carpet. Let me know if you have any other questions Yessirree.

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      Yessirree 4 years ago

      Hi I have a Hyundai elantra. 2002. I found a leak in my tail light on the passenger side. I also had water on my passenger front and back floors. Could my trunk leak be the cause of my inside floors to be wet as well.? I'm going to get the tail light sealed ASAP.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Your welcome Amaeze, now let it rain :)

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      Amaeze. 4 years ago

      Thanks Eddie,I guess I'll change them more often,changed mine yesterday after a while.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Amaeze,

      Thank you for coming back to give me an update, I really appreciate the feedback :)

      Your wipers should be change as soon as they start streaking, you can clean them with an alcohol wipe, or with a rag with window cleaner to remove the road debris from the rubber edge, but at the first sign of the blade coming apart, replace them, and do it in pairs, the next time it rains, you'll be glad you did.

      Let me know if you have any other questions Amaez.

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      Amaeze. 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      Sorry I never got back to you,the leakage into the rear seat floor has stopped now.It was coming in from the rear lights just like you mentioned. Thanks a lot. How often do you think driver should change their windshield wipers to avoid getting that permanent curve mark on the windshield.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      You're welcome Nui, If you ever have any other questions, you know where to find me :)

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      Nui 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      Arrh !!! I got it. Seem it had many consequence from my idea. Then I realize that the better way is not open for the AC. And everything shall be fine in this moment. I'm also very appreciate for your help and support. Thanks you very much Eddie. Take care ^^

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Nui,

      Yes it's possible to remove the carpet and just have rubber floor mats, but then that creates different problems. The carpet acts as an insulator for heat (from the exhaust) and noise. (from the vehicle and road) The floors will get very hot adding to the temperature because the exhaust is just below the floor, and the noise level will be like and empty room with hardwood floors, the carpet helps to absorb the noise caused by the engine, transmission and tires, so you would fix one problem, but cause more. I hope this helps Nui, take care.

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      Nui 4 years ago

      Thanks you very much Eddie. They didn't said about permanently fix or not. Now the weather here is not too much hot and I didn't open the AC at all, everything seem to be ok . I wanna ask you that , isn't it possible to remove the old carpet off and got some rubber carpet to floor it instead. It might be great when it wet which I can find some absorbent to remove the water off easily and forget about mold on the carpet. I know that it might not correct for the cause but it would be better for now to get rid off the consequence that come later. Thanks you very much again. Hv a good weekend ^^

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Nui,

      Seem like every shop is giving you the same answer, did any shop tell you they could fix it permanently?

      I think what's happening is, the ac is leaking / dripping behind the carpet and then pooling up under your legs. If I can help you in any other way Nui, don't hesitate to ask, I wish I could help more.

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      Nui 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      How are you ?? Not seen you for a while. After your advise, I'm going to shop around for the other 2 mechanic shop. One said that it might be leakage from the condensation plastic box which when I'm open AC and the moisture turn in to the water and leakage in to the car. They try to seal it first, but seem it didn't work at all. When I'm turning AC on again everything still be the same. Then I came back , they said it need to getting all of the interior stuff in the front dash off to see what wrong with it and it might be take 2 days for fix it and the cost might be the same ( around 1,000$) so I'm desired to go to the 3rd shop opinion. At this shop , they said about the position of the condensation and evaporation box under the front dash was mal-position and cause of leakage esp when I'm driving and break so they need to put the absorbent and reposition of all stuff again which might cost around the same. Then I try to put the absorbent sponge around mechanic beside front dash but seem it isn't wet at all. The thing that I notice is I see some leakage spot in the middle of the floor under my legs which too far from the front dash that everyshop suspect that leakage from . It just a tiny spot after I'm run AC for around 60 mins and then the spot seem to be bigger after I'm parking for 3-4 hours later. It seem like moist accommulate in to the water under my legs. Now I didn't know what to do , seem the problem gone if I didn't turn the AC on but I didn't know how can I tolerate under the very hot situation. I'm also thanks you very much for your helps and supports. Have a good day.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Amaeze,

      It's very easy to remove the rear tail lights, and you don't have to replace the gasket, all you need to do is use a silicone sealer between the the gasket and the body, then put it back together. If you know someone who is just a little mechanically inclined, it would probably take about a half hour to do the whole job. Let me know how everything comes out. Oh, and you're welcome, glad I could help :)

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      Amaeze 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      so I went to see my mechanic this evening and on showing him the damp rear seat floor he started to say it was coming in from the door seals,I don't have to tell you that I didn't believe him anymore.On getting home I removed the plastic nuts that cover the lights from the inside and I saw that he had done some work on it,he actually sealed it from the inside instead of changing the gasket. It has just rained a bit when I checked it and I could still see a little moisture coming in from there.I think I'll take the car to someone else and have the rear light gaskets changed for good. Thanks once again.

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      Amaeze 4 years ago

      okay,I'll get my mechanic to have a look @ it and I'll get back to you.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      That's OK Amaeze, I knew what you were talking about :) Just keep in mind that the gap between the bumper and taillight is not the problem, it's probably the gasket between the taillight and body, you will probably need to remove the 5 nuts holding the taillight on, you can get to these from inside the trunk. I'll wait to hear back from you, if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

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      Amaeze 4 years ago

      I have just seen that the spoiler is the aerofoil design that is attached to the boot to press the air down,please I was referring to the rear bumper.

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      Amaeze 4 years ago

      Thanks Eddie,

      It's all making sense to me now,in the first week I bought my car some dude who was tailgating me hit my rear spoiler when I slowed to climb a speed bump.

      The amount for a new bumper was ridiculously high so I had the old one it fixed but there was this gap that remained between the bottom of the rear lights and the top of the rear spoiler about the width of a human finger.I'll definitely look to getting that new REAR SPOILER before I accuse the mechanic of anything.I'll let you know how things go after I change the rear spoiler.I've also put the article on my facebook page so my pals can benefit from it.

      Thanks a Million,I wish I'd seen this article before I took my car to get fixed the first time.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Amaeze,

      The water in your trunk (spare tire well) could be caused by the gaskets around the taillights. The best way to check them is to slowly run water over the rear taillights. First, remove the trim panel inside the trunk that covers the taillights so you can see if water is coming in from around the gasket, then gently run water from a garden hose over the outside of the taillights. If the gaskets are leaking, you will see water pooling up around the taillight gasket from the inside of the trunk.

      Drilling a drain hole in the trunk is not the way to fix it because moisture will still be coming in and causing more mold. Let me know what you find Amaeze, thanks.

      One more thing, it's not your ac drain if you have water in the spare tire well :)

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      Amaeze 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,I own a 2008 Honda Civic (no sun roof and no windshield change)it's exactly 4 years since I bought it,I've always noticed that water collected in the spare Tyre compartment and that my car always smelt damped in the mornings with the front and rear windows fogged out,but I was living in an area that had poor drainage so I though the water was getting in through my doors from the flooded streets.

      Well I've since moved to another environment which is flood free and after going on a vacation I came back to see mold forming on my rear seats,after ripping out the rear seats I noticed they were soaked,since I always use air conditioning(Port Harcourt Nigeria)is very hot,even in the rainy season,I'm sure I didn't leave my rear windows down. I took it in and thought I had it fixed after spending the equivalent of a $100.Well this morning I noticed my rear seats were damp again.

      Well the guy who I thought fixed it told me that rain water had been c0llecting in the spare tyre compartment and sipping into my rear seats and rear floor,he actually made a drain hole and told me he changed some rubbers,I'm going to go back to him tomorrow and ask him to check my air-conditioner or evaporator drain.

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      Nui 4 years ago

      Thanks you very much Eddie , i'm so appreciated for your advise. sorry for reply late due to my studying . Today I'll going to shop around the auto car care here , and I'll let you know for the result. Hv a good weekend.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Nui,

      Please get a second opinion, I think the first shop is a bit over priced, I could take out the whole dash and interior of the vehicle, and then re install it for that kind of money. Get a second diagnosis and let me know what happens, if your still stuck, maybe I can walk you through some type of repair, take care for now Nui.

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      Nui 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie, I'm need your help and advise. My car is 2001 chrysler sebring LXI coupe. I have some problem of water leakage into my front carpet on the driver's side which it resolve after i'm reading your webpage and then i'm trying to turning off the air conditioner. It's gone. I'm checking to the sunroof and everything as you recommend but it might not be the causes. Then I'm going into auto service , they said that it might be some AC drain seal from inside the car to outside the car which broken and cannot drainage water from the car to outside ,but it cost very expensive. They said the cost is around 1,000$ which might be high to compare with the car price and I didn't hv much enough money to fix that. Then what can I do for that, go to other auto repair for re-check ?? I'm searching from internet which there's no detail about the price for this problem especially. What's your recommmendation ?? Thanks you very much for your help !

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      That's OK Linda, I get it either way :)

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      Linda Arney 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie, Just realised I replied on wrong site of yours. Collected car and it was dry. They stripped carpet, metal floor and soundproofing. They emptied about a gallon of water from the padding under floor and vacuumed it all till dry. They cannot find another leak despite putting it on a ramp to examine for damage, which they did not find. They think the water I saw on the carpet last week was caused by the residual water sloshing around while I drove the car. Let's hope so but will keep you informed. Thanks again.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Linda,

      Looking back at the comments, I can see I asked you to check the trunk for water twice, sorry.

      I'm not sure why the dealer is having such a difficult time locating the leak, All they have to do is remove the passengers seat and the carpet on the passengers side and water test the vehicle, if your car is extremely wet, finding the leak should be relatively easy.

      Keep me up to date on the progress Linda, thanks.

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      Linda Arney 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie, Checked trunk and no water on carpet or in the spare tyre well! I park car on slight incline in both directions and problem persists. I tested the new door seal with a hose pipe to make sure that they had done the job properly and not leak. We have had no rain here for three days and it is slowly drying out. Tomorrow it goes to the garage for them to put it up on a ramp to examine the underneath. More money! I will keep you informed.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Linda,

      Sorry for all your troubles, water leaks are hard to locate because you need to remove everything that stops you from seeing the point of entry, I had to remove a dashboard and both front fenders once to locate a water leak. (it was under warranty, so it was no cost to the customer, just there time)

      Water leaks can happen anywhere, but it's very rare it's near the floor, it's usually an after market accessory or a front or back glass seal. I need you to check something for me, go open your trunk and feel the carpet and look in the spare tire well, let me know if there is any water in the trunk. Sometimes a rear tail light lens gasket will leak and the water will flow into the rear seat, especially if your car is parked on an incline with the nose pointed down hill. Let me know if you find anything Linda, I'm very curious, thanks :)

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      Linda Arney 4 years ago

      Ongoing problem! Had the sunroof tested and they said that a tube had been disconnected and that they had reconnected it. Two days later it rained again and once more, wet floor in rear footwell. Took it back and they hosed it and said the leak was the seal on the rear nearside door. Apparently they pressure hosed the door to test it several times. Collected it Tuesday, it rained Wednesday and once more wet floor. Took it straight back and have booked it in for next Monday when they say they will strip out the carpet and see if the leak is coming from underneath. I find this all very distressing (and expensive) especially as I know nothing about cars and don't know if they are conning me. The seal that they have put in is nowhere near as neat and tidy as the existing trims. This is a reputable garage. (Ford). The leak first appeared on 22nd June and it is now 19th July. I love my car and realise it is getting old but it is a diesel and has only done 50,000 miles. Just thought you might like to know the progress - or rather lack of if. Thanks. Lin

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi James,

      Are you sure it not a disconnected or clogged ac drain? The evaporator drain is usually located on the passengers side, if it's hot and humid where you live and you're running the ac a lot, it could be water from the evaporator, let me know your thoughts James, thanks.

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      James 4 years ago

      I'm having rain water entering my 03 Lincoln Towncar on the passenger side, both front and back footwell. Do you have any suggestions on how I should go about fixing this? Thanks so much.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Lin,

      If there is water in the trunk, you probably have a tail light gasket leaking, so you need to find the source of the leak, it could be a sunroof drain because the rear drain tubes on the sunroof usually travel through the trunk, so like I said, you need to find the source of the leak by water testing it with a garden hose and a flash light.

      The sunroof drains should be cleaned out regardless of when it leaks, water is getting trapped up in the tray and it's only going to get worst. The boot? Are you talking about the trunk? If so, the trunk latch should be adjustable and it just needs to be adjusted to close the gap.

      If you know someone who owns a wet vacuum, just vacuum up the water and run your car at idle for about an hour with the heat on high and all the windows opened about an inch, this should dry out the floor pretty good. Keep me up to date with what you find and do Lin, thanks.

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      Lin 4 years ago

      Thanks very much Eddie - lost the website - hence the late reply. I checked in the trunk and, yes there was a little water in the tyre well, but most of it had run into the car. I have sponged it out but when you press on the floor in the rear foot well you can hear it sloshing around underneath. My neighbour who mends cars opened the bonnet and removed a part near the base of the windscreen and removed a lot of leaves which had got trapped, but he couldn't locate the leak.. He has offered to take the car and dry it out in an "oven" which he uses when cars are resprayed. Do you think this is a good idea?

      I did forget something which he pointed out. The boot of the car closes and locks but it is not a tight fit as the lock has worked loose and there is a minuscule gap all around the edge of the boot. Maybe this is the problem. Do I still have to have the sun roof checked out as water leakage from it only happens about every two years? Thanks a lot.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Lin,

      The first place to start with this water leak is the sunroof, water should never drip from the drain tray, that would be a sign of clogged drain tubes. I recommend having all 4 drain tube cleaned out by blowing compressed air through them, and then have them water tested to insure they are draining properly outside the vehicle and not inside the vehicle.

      The second place to check for water is in the trunk, tail lights sometimes leak water into the trunk, then the water seems to find it's way into the passengers compartment from under the back seat, so check the trunk to see if there is any water, especially in the spare tire well.

      Let me know if I can help with any other questions Lin, and let me know what you find, thanks.

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      Lin 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie, Two nights ago I drove 7 miles in heavy rain and through puddles. The following morning when I opened the car door the floor wells on the passenger side, front and back, had water about 2" deep! Previously the rear passenger carpet has been damp on occasions for several years which has caused a musty smell which I can't get rid of. and in the Winter the car mists up easily and is hard to clear. I have a sunroof, factory installed, and very rarely it drips down onto the gear lever. I have never had the windscreen replaced and I do not have air-conditioning. The car has never been in an accident but I did drive over a curb which made a slight,grating noise about 6 years ago. I have a Golf 2002. Please could you advise? Thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Joanne,

      It's very rare that the door panel inner seal will cause a water leak, did you water test the car an verify that's where the water is entering the car.

      I recommend taking it back to the body shop and having them fix it, I believe you have a body seam leaking from the accident. The car must be water tested to see where the water is entering, starting at the top and working your way down to the floor, but to be honest, the body shop should be held responsible, it should have been fixed at the time of repair. Let me know if you have any other info or what you decide to do, thanks.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi nm64,

      Does the rear floor have a hump in the middle between the passengers side and the drivers side? if not the water could just flow from the passengers side. Check the rest of the carpet to see if it wet any where else, feel it with your hands, if everything feels OK, check the trunk for water.

      Sometimes when you have a trunk leak the water will come forward in the the passengers compartment, so open the trunk and inspect it for water, look in the spare tire well too. let me know if you find anything, thanks.

      Sorry about the delay on the reply, I didn't see you comment.

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      Joanne 4 years ago

      Hi

      I had a leak the passenger side and the carpet was getting soaked (I had an accident and the repair shop had the door panels off that side) took it back to the dealer and the membrane (seal inside the door panel) was not sealed properly. That was fixed but now I have a problem with water flooding into the rear seats. I've taken the door panel off and part of the membrane wasn't sealed properly so I cleaned it up and sealed it. There was a small part of the membrane (foam covering the inside panel) missing from the top but I sealed and secured as much as I could. I thought this would rectify the problem however we had lots of rain last night and on checking the car this morning it seems a small amount of water has got in again. Could there be something else causing it or do I need to get a brand new inside door panel cover? Help!! I'm fed up of paying ££££ for it to come back with a new problem!

      Thanks

      Joanne

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      nm64 4 years ago

      Hi and thanks for such a quick response. I can see something that looks like a fan under the drivers seat (RHD car). The water accumulates in the rear passenger footwell, behind the driver's seat. So the ac drain tube is on the front passenger side? What else can it be? Its a lot of clear water (i had to bail it out this morning!)

      I suppose it must be rainwater then but where else could it come from? Its only wet behind the driver's seat. Any help advice would be appreciated, thanks again.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi NM64,

      When you say water is in the rear drivers side, do you mean the rear floor on the drivers side? If so, it's because the floors are tapered to the rear, water will always flow towards the back seat, so if you have a leak in front, the water will eventually end up out back. If there is no hump in the center of the vehicles floor, water can move from side to side as well.

      I don't believe it's from the ac drain tube because it's located in the right front floor near the passengers feet.

      Let me know if you have any other information or if you have any other questions, take care for now.

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      NM64 4 years ago

      Hi, I have a Nissan Primera 2002. It does have a sunroof and I will check the pan etc. as per advice above. However, it has water inside the rear driver's side, even when it doesn't rain! Its not coolant / windshield wash / windscreen has not been replaced either. Could it be linked to the air conditionaing unit? The water is clear. Please help! Many thanks!

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      OK Jan, I'll wait to hear from you :)

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      Jan 4 years ago

      Ok thanks for the information...I am going to give your suggestions a try because I called the GM dealer and they want to charge $99 just for a diagnostic but before I go that route I will give your suggestions a try. I will keep you posted.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jan,

      You may have two leaks, the headliner leak is not caused by the AC, it has to be either the sunroof drains, the windshield or possibly a roof rack if you have one. The water on the floor could be the AC evaporator drain that has become disconnected or clogged. You just need find the drain tube under the car and blow compressed air up it to unclog it or look under the dash on the passengers side at the foot well, look for a black hose going from the evaporator housing to the firewall, make sure it's connected.

      If you want to test the drains in the sunroof, take a small bottle of water and pour it slowly in the sunroof tray in each corner, the water should drain next to each wheel on the outside of the vehicle, if not, you may have a clogged line.

      If you know for sure it's not the sunroof, water test the vehicle with a garden hose, starting at the roof and see if you can find the point of entry. Let me know what you find Jan :)

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      Jan 4 years ago

      Sorry I just saw your message...I mean water is coming in from the headliner I thought it might be my sunroof but its not and it is also seeping in from the floor...from some other sites I have checked they say it could be from the defroster or air conditioning hose and they could be blocked up...this only started happening the past few months

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jan,

      From the top? Do you mean the roof? It sounds like a windshield leak but I'll wait to hear back from you.

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      Jan 4 years ago

      Hi I have a 2007 Saturn Ion and I purchased it used in 2010...but just recently started noticing water coming in from the top and from the floor...so I am wondering could this be from the air conditioning and how could I find out and if it is would it be an easy inexpensive repair

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Rickie, Does it leak with the AC on or when it rains, they may have forgot to put the drain hose on the evaporator, that's my guess. There is no such thing as wear and tear on some vent that will cause a water leak, I have never seen anything like that nor have I ever heard someone give that as an excuse. I think they are being dishonest. If they are going to fix it, ask them to see and prove that the leak is this vent. Let me know what happens Rickie.

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      Rickie 4 years ago

      Hi Eddie,

      I was in a car wreck a couple of weeks ago. Just got my 2007 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT back. However, it is now leaking on the passenger floorboard (same side as crash. The body shop is now telling me it's leaking from a vent underneath the carpet under the glove box... and it's due to wear and tear. I know it didn't leak before the wreck... could a wreck misalign or cause it to crack? I just don't want to give them my $ if this is do to the accident.

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      That's great abegundetosin, glad I could help :) and thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. Let me know how everything goes this weekend, take care.

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      abegundetosin 4 years ago

      Thanx, i just got back from m mechanic and voila! they found the point - rusted body just at the passenger's foot.

      so i'll be going to fix it by weekend. i should check the front rotors and also do a wheel balancing. After all this is done. I'll let you know what i come up with. 10x a milli! Ooooooshe

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      Eddie Carrara 4 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Michael, What seal did you change and why?

      When you cleaned the drains, did you clean all 4 or just the front two?

      Did you blow compressed air through them to make sure they were clear? And run water through them after the compressed air to verify they are draining?

      Where is the water leaking in? Is your head liner getting wet or is water dripping into the drip tray?

      Let me know, the more details, the better the answers I can give.

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      michael 4 years ago

      i just changed the seal n cleaned the drains on my 2009 altima moonroof and its still leaking do u know y

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi abegundetosin, as I can see by your other posts, you don't have ac. The first thing I recommend you do is water test the vehicle. Pull back the carpet on the passengers floor and use a garden hose to water test it, spray water onto the underside of the car and see if you can locate the water leak. Let me know what you find.

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi abegundetosin,

      It really sounds like your talking about the air conditioner make noise, sometimes it sounds like water on a hot surface, it's just the freeon running through the system. The water might be from the evaporator drain tube being clogged. I recommend blowing some compressed air up the evaporator drain tube from the bottom of the car and see if a ton of water drains out. The evaporator is on the passengers side and drains near the passengers feet, outside the car.

      I could be totally wrong but just check it and let me know what you find.

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      abegundetosin 5 years ago

      Hi,

      Thanx for the post. My car - a nissan primera 98 model leaks from the front passengers side, especially during a rainfall, it usually seem like the water touches a hot stuff (dunno what this is) makes that noise of cold water touching a hot surface. Now it has graduated to leaking anytime i pass through water. What do you advise? 10x

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Sure Bill, and thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it.

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      Bill 5 years ago

      Great, I'll get debris out. The trunk problem sounds about right. A few months ago, I noticed what seemed to be a truck, hit my car causing a deep dent on my passenger side tail light. The hit cracked my tail light and continued a little passed it. There's a little gap between the tail light and that part. I'll check it out and let you know. Thanks again eddie

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Bill,

      I believe you have 2 separate problems, 1. the drains in the sunroof tray are blocked, just use some compressed air to gently blow out the debris, 2. I believe the taillight gaskets are leaking in your trunk, it is a very common trunk leak for the 02 accord. Just run water over the tail lights, then take the tail light covers off inside the trunk, and with a flashlight, look at the gasket, you should see water pooling up. To fix it, remove the tail lights and use silicone sealer on both sides of the foam gasket and re install. Let me know if this helps Bill, I'm curious about the trunk leak, thanks.

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      Bill 5 years ago

      Sure Ed.. That's actually exactly what its doing. The tray fills up and drips over the top right corner. My trunk also fills up with water but i'm guessing, from reading previous posts, the drain popped out from the back. Thanks again.

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Bill,

      Could you give me a little more detail, like is it filling up the sunroof drip tray and leaking in over the edge of the tray, or is it getting the headliner wet in the corners of the sunroof? Give me more detail and I'll have a better answer ;)

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      Bill 5 years ago

      Hell Eddie,

      I have a 2002 Honda Accord. Whenever it rains i get a leak coming from the sunroof. Any idea what it could be? My sunroof slides open and also pops up. Thanks

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jameshia,

      Take a close look at the drain tube itself, make sure the tube is connected to the sunroof tray properly and make sure the tube itself doesn't have a split in it.

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      Jameshia 5 years ago

      It's behind the headliner not the trays that lead to the drains for the sunroof. I removed the seal that holds the headliner up to the sunroof opening of the car. I can see the water drip from below the car from all 4 drains, but when I poured it over the entire sunroof you can see where it goes down behind the sunroof glass and seems like it rests in the headliner until it either drips to the seats and floor or you pull the headliner down and it all comes a splashing. I am wondering if there is a hole or something in the back drain tubes or is the leak coming from the actual sunroof glass and stripping not meeting the body of the car properly. I am going to pull it down again tomorrow and use a flashlight to see exactly where it is filling from. Thanks

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Jameshia,

      Did you check all 4 drains?

      Water should drain pretty quickly and some might stay up in the tray. The tray should catch the water but it should drain.I'm not sure which seal you removed to release the water?

      Is the water in the tray or is it behind the headliner? If it'

      s behind the headliner, try to pull down the headliner and look up there with a flashlight to see if you can find the point of entry.

      Let me know what you find.

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      Jameshia 5 years ago

      I have a 2006 dodge charger with water leaking in the headliner. I tested the drain holes and the water seems to be running out okay but when i poured the water directly onto the closed sunroof water built up in the inside of the headliner and when I removed the weather stripping all the water ran out onto the seats and carpet. Is there something that should be inside the headliner to prevent the water from going all over the place? What can be done to detect exactly where the water is coming from in this case?

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Andy,

      Because the blower motor assembly is on that side, I would do a water test with the blower motor on high and the air intake lever or button in the fresh air position. Spray water on the passengers side windshield with the blower on for about 3 minutes, then look at the blower motor assemble housing for signs of water or dripping, look at the seam on the blower motor housing.

      Second possible cause: Has the windshield ever been replaced? I'll wait to hear back from you Andy, take care for now.

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      Andy 5 years ago

      Hi Ediie

      I have a 2000 Nissan Quest, front passenger side carpet and insulation under it is completely soaked. I haven't used my AC in 2012, because it's still pretty cold Here in NYC. I don't see any holes or something like that under passenger front side. Where the water could come from???

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Christine,

      If it's a body seam, and you can see the water coming in,you can buy a can of 3M Brushable Seam Sealer found at most auto parts stores and you can also find it on amazon, there should be a link for it in the article somewhere, just dry the area well and apply it with a small paint brush or spatula, it's the best sealer to use for those types of issues, it goes on like paste and last forever, it's what car manufacturers us to seal all the body seams on a car before it's painted.

      If you don't want to do it yourself, find a mechanic who is willing to tackle the job. Let me know if you have any other questions, and let me know how you make out, thanks Christine and good luck :)

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      christine from montreal 5 years ago

      Hi Eddie

      I will let you know right away- He just bought the car from me last week- he did not replace the windshield

      I will coach him through your suggestions

      if it's a seam and we locate the problem

      Who should we go see after to fix it?

      Christine :)

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Christine,

      I wonder if he had the windshield replaced,lol. Are you going to try to find the leak yourself? The problem with this situation is there is no obvious reason for the leak, so it is either a windshield seal, or a body seam. The water is leaking in without force, like a splash from a tire or a car wash, so it's leaking in slowly through a seam or seal.

      If the floor is soaked it should be easy to locate the point of entry just by putting a hose on the vehicle, starting from the bottom and working your way up to the roof. That's about all I can help you with, so I hope you can find the leak. Let me know if I can help in any other way, and when you find the leak, if you have time could you come back and let me know what it was? Thanks Christine, take care for now :)

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      christinefrommontreal 5 years ago

      Can't wait to hear back from you Eddie- THANKS SO MUCH

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      christinefrom montreal 5 years ago

      Hi Eddie- Thank you for your prompt reply no antenna and windshield never replaced-

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Christine,

      Does your civic have an antenna right over the driver's door? Have you ever had the windshield replaced in the car? I'll wait to hear back from you.

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      Christine from Montreal 5 years ago

      Hi Eddie

      I have owned a honda civic for 11 years

      it's a 4 door civic- NO Sunroof

      I just sold the car

      and the genleman who purchased said- after washing the car 2 times, he found the drivers side- carpets soaking wet

      It only happens when he washes the CAR- the car never did that prior-

      and there is no water in trunk or anywhere else

      never been accidented-

      What do you recommend?

      Help don't want to spend a lot of money

      Honda sais they can do a water test 95$ an hour

      to figure out where its coming from

      and that it can take 30 min or 2 hours

      HELPPPPPPPPP

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      vicki 5 years ago

      thanks again all the best vicki

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Vicki, WOW, that's awesome, that's all it takes is a little investigating to find the point of entry, but if you just follow the path of water, eventually you will find the source. I want to thank you for coming back to give me that update, it really helps me in my quest to advise people on what to do for common automotive problems, plus, like you said, it helps other readers with similar problems. Thanks again Vicki, take care.

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      v.osullivan 5 years ago

      hi vicki here i posted a message 3 months ago about a leak in my passenger footwell on my 02 plate 406 hdi thankyou for responding to my message it was a great help i got in touch with peugeot garage in salford where they advised me it would cost me £89 an hour just to detect the leak as you could imagine i declined that but instead my boyfreind took your advise and tried to locate the leak after an hour or two he removed the passenger sunvisor and the handle above the door thus being able to peel back the roof cloth then he filled the sunroof tray with water the water started immediately pouring in looking in under the roof cloth he noticed he could see two little streams of light coming through there were two pot rivets through the sunroof hey presto there was our problem the water had been coming through these two rivets after a heavy downpour put some silicone in these rivets and touch wood not leaked since thanks again for your feedback and i hope my bit has helped you or someone else in the same situation thankgod didn't have to pay peugeot £89 an hour to look at it or drink tea ha

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Denise,

      Does tour truck have a pop-up sunroof or a sliding sunroof? If you have a sliding sunroof, the drains might be clogged with debris and you may just need some compressed air and a nozzle to blow them out.

      If you have a pop-up sunroof, you may need to bring it to a windshield repair facility or call someone who replaces windshields, I think they can help you. Let me know how you make out or if you have any more questions, take care for now Denise :)

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      Denise 5 years ago

      Hello I am having a problem with water leaking in my truck the ceiling is always wet to the touch from hard rain I do have a sun roof the question is where do I go to get it fixed. Help please.

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Dom,

      With all the information you have given me, I would have to say your windshield is leaking. You have rust at the top edge, there is water in the dash, and your windshield has been replaced. Sounds to me like the person who put in your windshield, didn't do a good job.

      Usually a windshield will leak at the top or at the sides, but you can't see the leak because the water is trailing down the pillar behind the interior molding.

      It sounds like you don't have enough money to have the windshield replaced so the only suggestion I have is to use a tube of sealer and seal the windshield from the outside, around the rubber seal. It's not really a good repair, but it's a temporary repair. If you want to water test it, you could use gallon jugs to dump over the windshield slowly, you have a large leak, it shouldn't be that hard to locate, you just need to find the stream and follow it.

      If you have insurance, you might want to call them and ask if they will cover the damage it's caused, they just might. Or you could call a reputable glass company and ask them how much it would cost to pull your windshield and replace the gasket only, it will save you a few bucks not having to buy a windshield.

      If you have any more questions you know where to find me, let me know what you decide to do. There are a lot of good people out in the world that are willing to help, you just have to keep asking till you find them. take care for now, I'll be waiting to hear how you made out :)

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      Dom 5 years ago

      I have a 2001 VW Passat and I noticed that it seemed like if I drove through a puddle I would get water inside of my car. For a while I noticed it was mainly on the passenger's side of the car. It was never usually a serious amount of water and I always dried it out. After Hurricane Irene hit I noticed I had a lot of water in my back seat on the driver's side. I sopped up as much as I could and dried the car as best as I could. Problem is that every time I went in there was another puddle of water. My windows always had fog inside of them from the carpet being wet, and I always heard sloshing in the back seat even if I sopped the water up. I started having electrical problems, and brought the car to my mechanic to see if he could target the location of the water leak and fix a different issue I had with the steering. He took a look at it and said I had water everywhere in my car. I specifically remember him saying there was water in the dashboard. I brought it to a body shop, and the guy said that the sunroof drains were clear, that it could have been the windshield because he noticed rust on the top edge and there's what looks like bubbled up urethane on the inside of the windshield. It has rained since and the water hasn't seemed to get worse (it's started actually drying out and there's no more puddle)and I've checked the edges of the windshield for water and I don't feel any.

      I'm just wondering if you've got any ideas where this could be coming from. I got the car used and didn't even really know the windshield had been changed until the body shop told me. The other windows are all original though. I live in an apartment so I don't have a hose to even attempt to test and see where the water is coming from, and I don't even know where I can go to get someone to test it for me. Any info would be extremely helpful. I understand if you're flabbergasted. It seems everyone I've talked to has been. :)

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      Maxine 5 years ago

      Cheers again its been very useful. :)

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Maxine, yes, your windows will fog up because of the moisture on the carpet, if you want to speed the drying process of your carpet, wet vac the carpet at a local gas station and then let you car idle in your driveway for about an hour with the heat on high and the windows cracked slightly, if you have 5 minutes read this other article I wrote https://axleaddict.com/safety/clearfoggedcarwindow...

      If you don't smell sweet candy inside your car, I'm 99.9% sure it's not your heater core. Thanks for commenting, and If you have any other questions, just ask :) Glad to help.

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      maxine 5 years ago

      Thank you so much for taking the time not only to read my worries but make a comment. Really appreciated!!! Hoping its the sunroof. My windows do fog up on the inside but soon clear with the heaters on. No sweet smell, just a smell of damp from the water.

      THANKS again :):):)

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Maxine, blocking the drain holes in the sunroof tray would prevent the water from draining, it would pool up until it overflowed, like in your situation. A sunroof is not watertight, that's why the tray has drain holes, the drain holes have tubes attached to them and the water will actually drain into the bottom of the front fenders between the drivers door and the front wheel.

      If your heater core was leaking, the windows would fog up very quickly as soon as you started the engine, and it would be very difficult to clear them with the defogger. Also, if your heater core leaks, you will smell antifreeze or coolant, coolant has a sweet smell like candy, and I'm sure you would notice it.

      I think what happened is your sunroof tray filled up with water and then overflowed onto the headliner, then down the A pillar near the windshield and onto your drivers side floor. Let me know if I answered your question, and if you have any more questions, I'm right here :)

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      maxine 5 years ago

      hello,

      I have a little clio and the sunroof was dripping slightly from the seal.My boyfriend got a new seal and then sealed up the drain holes to the sunroof.It stopped the dripping for a while. Then after a few weeks i got into my car to notice puddles in my drivers foot well. The inside roof on the drivers side was also wet. Ive removed the silicone from the sunroof that he used to block the drainage holes.Then cleaned and dried my car. Im just wondering if the sunroof would cause puddles on the drivers side of the car? Or could it be a more serious problem? I have been reading about the heater core. How will i know if it is the sunroof or the heater core? As i don't want to leave it to long in case it makes the problem worse.

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hello Vicki, One way to find out how the water is getting in is to water test the car, if you use a garden hose and place it on the roof so the water is running down the door, you can get inside the car on the drivers side with a flashlight and see if that is where the water is coming in, I don't think it is but anything is possible.

      If the water is coming in through the door, it means someone removed the plastic door liner behind the inside door panel. Water does get inside car doors but then it drains out the bottom of the door via drain holes, the liner is there to keep water inside the door so the inner door panel does not get wet.

      Has the windshield been replaced? Does the car have a sunroof? If the water is not coming in through the door, pull back the carpet on the passengers side and see if you find a trail of water coming from somewhere under the dash area, put the garden hose on your roof again and let the water flow down the windshield, check the inside of the car for water pooling on the passengers floor.

      Chasing a water leak can be tricky but it's not impossible. Drilling holes in the floor should not be an option, but most mechanics do not want to spend the time to chase leaks. Sometimes I would spend days chasing leaks, but I always found them.

      There is a company in the US that's called The Water Doctor, they specialize in finding and fixing water leaks in cars. Maybe there is a company near you that does the same. Let me know what you decide to do, if you need any more help, you know where to find me :)

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      vicki o'sullivan 5 years ago

      recently i purchased a peugeot 406 hdi when it rains heavily the passenger side carpet gets soaked i brought it to my local garage where they could not locate the leak but drilled two holes underneath the car to try to solve it for a while i thought it actually worked but the other day after a heavy downpour it was back again it seems to be coming in near the speaker on the door or under the seal on the door can you help me please with this problem thanks

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Loren, The funny thing about water is it runs downhill to the lowest point. The water leak could be coming from up front and only making a small path to the back floor area and then it pools up. I would check the front carpet closely on the floor pan edges(near the center console and near the floor where it meets the rocker panel) This is usually where water would travel from the front to the back.

      If that looks OK, check the trunk for signs of moisture, possible under the back glass, water could trail down into the rear seat area from the trunk, also the trunk is where the sunroof drains are routed, usually near the rear fenders. If there is moisture in the trunk your might want to investigate those two items.

      Basically you need to find the trail of water leading to the source, like following a stream to the lake. You will have to feel the carpet and find the direction the water is coming from and that will guide you in the right direction.

      I know you just bought the car, but is there any possible way to find out if the windshield or rear glass has been changed or if the car has been in an accident? These are common sources of water leaks, glass seals and body seams that have not been sealed properly after an accident, if everything is OK, check the rear sunroof drains.

      I hope this give you some good ideas, let me know what you find, I would really appreciate it. Take care.

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      Loren 5 years ago

      Hi,

      Thank you for the tips on water leaks. I have a 2008 volvo S40 which I have had for about a month. In the past week or so i have noticed when i get in the car it smells like wet towels that have been sitting and that the windows had condensation on the inside. I checked the around and didn't see any water because I have a sunroof. But then i felt my back passenger floor mat and it was soaked with water. Its the only mat and I ripped it out immediately. Now this only started happening about 2 weeks ago when it started raining. I don't t think its the sunroof or windows only because I would assume more then that mat would be wet. Any suggestions?

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      Eddie Carrara 5 years ago from New Hampshire

      Hi Shaz, Do you know if it's an aftermarket sunroof? A factory installed sunroof will have a drip pan, if you slide the sunroof open all the way and look around the edge, there should be a tray that sits below the sunroof seal (see the pictures above)If there is water sitting in that tray after it rains, it's a good indication your sunroof drains are clogged.

      Contrary to popular belief, all factory installed sunroofs leak, that's why they install a drip tray with drains. If the drains are clogged, just blow some compressed air through them gently, the rear drains will be a lot harder to reach, if you can reach them at all, but at least you can clear the front drains.

      If you have any more questions, I'll be right here :)

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      shaz 5 years ago

      thankyou very useful our car has a sunroof and water leaked onto my 4yr old in the back of the car from above the door do you think its the seal only a few drips were coming throught the front visor too help please only had the car 2wks 2nd hand a 1.6 golf

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